Obama '08?

Mmm-hmm.

I've said before that I think Obama is better equipped to stand up to inevitable attacks than Hillary. Not sure what's being argued now -- that there will be attacks? I don't think anyone has really disputed that.

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I agree that there is a lot of structural and fundamental work yet to be done. But, it's a good environment to be doing it in - Republicanism has failed the country, and it's become rather obvious.

McCain will NOT WIN running as Bush term 3. It's a serious problem for him.

It is a good environment for us, which is why the right is deeply concerned. But they play for keeps. There are many many billions of dollars at stake here (consider changes in regulatory regimes alone). What is about to come at Obama or any dem candidate will not only be broad, deep and serious, it will be effective and influential. They know how to do effective and influential.

blatham wrote:

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I agree that there is a lot of structural and fundamental work yet to be done. But, it's a good environment to be doing it in - Republicanism has failed the country, and it's become rather obvious.

McCain will NOT WIN running as Bush term 3. It's a serious problem for him.

It is a good environment for us, which is why the right is deeply concerned. But they play for keeps. There are many many billions of dollars at stake here (consider changes in regulatory regimes alone). What is about to come at Obama or any dem candidate will not only be broad, deep and serious, it will be effective and influential. They know how to do effective and influential.

Agreed - but it doesn't matter which candidate it was, we knew this was coming. And so do the American folks!

Cycloptichorn

NBC was forced to issue an apology this week after Jane Fonda said the word "c*nt" in a discussion of the play The Vagina Monologues. "We would do nothing to offend the audience, so please accept that apology," Today co-host Meredith Vieira told viewers.

What the network has not yet apologized for, nor is it likely to, is having Republican operative Roger Stone on Tucker Carlson's MSNBC show this week. Stone is the leader of the anti-Hillary Clinton group Citizens United Not Timid, [C*NT)

It doesn't matter who attacks Barack Obama now. God told me he was going to win. Not in so many words, of course, but last night, as I was sitting at a bar drinking whiskey out of a dirty glass and listening to some rock music, God's message came to me in an epiphany.

I was shown by god that in the pronunciation of Barack's first name, there are the two words, "bar" and "rock." Since these are two things that I love, and since I was actually at a rock bar at the time, I'm sure it was a sign from god. And then later in the evening, while I was drunkenly gawking at the deliciously robust sweater puppets of some random girl, I realized that if you just go by the spelling, his name contains the word "rack!"

Coincidence? I think not. He's the man. God told me so.

Pugnacious Surrogates, Milquetoast Candidates

Hmm. Instead of Hillary's pretty empty non-concession speech last night, maybe the cable news networks should have shown her opening act:

Early in his speech, Tom Buffenbarger [president of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers] asked, "So now we have a decision to make. Will we rely on the Harvard Law Review editor? The silver-tongued orator from Kansas, Hawaii and Illinois? The man in love with the microphone?"

Taking off the gloves, he said, "Barack Obama is no Muhammad Ali. He took a walk every time there was a tough vote in the Illinois State Senate. He took a walk more than a 130 times. That's what a shadow boxer does. All the right moves. All the right combinations. All the right footwork. But he never steps into the ring."

But it was Obama supporters for whom Buffenbarger saved his most vitriolic contempt, and he proved that the Democratic Party's coalition is nothing if not fragile. Channeling Howard Beale from the movie "Network," he yelled into the microphone, "Give me a break! I've got news for all the latte-drinking, Prius- driving, Birkenstock-wearing, trust fund babies crowding in to hear him speak! This guy won't last a round against the Republican attack machine. He's a poet, not a fighter."

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ODRlODYxOWI1YjUzNDU2NjM4NWY0YTE4ODM0ZmIxYjI=

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Our radio news this evening said Mrs Obama had "mis-spoken" or blundered when she said in an interview recently that this was the first time in her adult life she felt proud of her country.

I expect BO's opponents are spinning that for all they're worth. How significant is that, IYO?

It was danged unfortunate. This bit of video will pretty predictably be a staple in the right's attempts to color Obama as a liberal, america-hater who has no use for the flag, for the pledge of allegiance, for soldiers, etc. It plays directly into the conservative movement propaganda thrust.

We'll see it running from now until the election.

And it is irrelevant?

How is the average Joe or Jane supposed to interpret the comment?

Hyperbole to be sure, but doesn't it reveal a certain mindset that should be of interest to voters?

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And it is irrelevant?

How is the average Joe or Jane supposed to interpret the comment?

Hyperbole to be sure, but doesn't it reveal a certain mindset that should be of interest to voters?

Well, there's the problem. Her 'mindset' is not all that is in play. There's the hearer's 'mindset' too.

We know, for example, at least pretty approximately, how Ann Coulter's 'mindset' will understand what Ms. Obama said. But that will be quite different from what my mindset will 'understand' or the mindset of black women from Arkansas will 'understand'.

And as folks on the right, in this time and place, are heavily primed to 'hear' her comment as unpatriotic or america-hating or something like those, the political activist folks on the right will pump this for everything it is worth.

So, it'll be a PR problem.

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And it is irrelevant?

How is the average Joe or Jane supposed to interpret the comment?

Hyperbole to be sure, but doesn't it reveal a certain mindset that should be of interest to voters?

Well, there's the problem. Her 'mindset' is not all that is in play. There's the hearer's 'mindset' too.

We know, for example, at least pretty approximately, how Ann Coulter's 'mindset' will understand what Ms. Obama said. But that will be quite different from what my mindset will 'understand' or the mindset of black women from Arkansas will 'understand'.

And as folks on the right, in this time and place, are heavily primed to 'hear' her comment as unpatriotic or america-hating or something like those, the political activist folks on the right will pump this for everything it is worth.

So, it'll be a PR problem.

This is a disappointing reply.

This election, irrespective of who wins the Dem nomination holds the promise of being the closest thing to a referendum on ideology that we have had in a long time.

"I don't want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there's evidence, hard facts, that say this is how the woman really feels. If that's how she really feels -- that America is a bad country or a flawed nation, whatever -- then that's legit. We'll track it down."

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I agree that there is a lot of structural and fundamental work yet to be done. But, it's a good environment to be doing it in - Republicanism has failed the country, and it's become rather obvious.

McCain will NOT WIN running as Bush term 3. It's a serious problem for him.

It is a good environment for us, which is why the right is deeply concerned. But they play for keeps. There are many many billions of dollars at stake here (consider changes in regulatory regimes alone). What is about to come at Obama or any dem candidate will not only be broad, deep and serious, it will be effective and influential. They know how to do effective and influential.

Part of the problem is that the people who are fanning this are leaving out one very important word in the quote from Michelle's speech. Another part of the word is that when you are reading the text of that speech you don't hear the inflection that was in her voice when she said that word they omitted. When the word and inflection are included, the quote takes on a different meaning.


What's the word that is being omitted?

"For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country. Not just because Barack is doing well, but I think people are hungry for change."