Obama '08?

Well said, Asherman.

However, sensing exposure, they have already retreated, feigning sorrow for "diverting " the thread from its intended topic.

Where a black guy can reasonably defend a preference for blacks out of an honest sense of fairness; a white guy's preference for whites (at least in this country) could do no such thing. And you damn well know it.

snood wrote:

Oh, please - educate us ,oh wizened sage...

So, jerkoff, do you just show up here at night to insult people you don't like while hiding behind your computer screen? I said come get me. What's the problem?

cjhsa wrote:

snood wrote:

Oh, please - educate us ,oh wizened sage...

So, jerkoff, do you just show up here at night to insult people you don't like while hiding behind your computer screen? I said come get me. What's the problem?

Says the ultra tough gun nut, who despite his firepower is still hiding behind a fake name and phony avatar, even while accusing others of doing so. I can ill imagine how a coward could be more openly cowardly. How does that feel cjhsamaracist?

OCCOM BILL wrote:

cjhsa wrote:

snood wrote:

Oh, please - educate us ,oh wizened sage...

So, jerkoff, do you just show up here at night to insult people you don't like while hiding behind your computer screen? I said come get me. What's the problem?

Says the ultra tough gun nut, who despite his firepower is still hiding behind a fake name and phony avatar, even while accusing others of doing so. I can ill imagine how a coward could be more openly cowardly. How does that feel cjhsamaracist?

Feels like the Internet. Snood won't come get me, he's chicken. But some other freak might. Our psych pros aren't very good at picking them out lately.

georgeob1 wrote:

Well said, Asherman.

However, sensing exposure, they have already retreated, feigning sorrow for "diverting " the thread from its intended topic.

Actually, what I was sensing was dinner. :wink: I like you George... and I respect you a great deal, but you're wrong.

Retreated my ass. Your little diversion is as feeble as it is obvious. The good news is: no one here including me doubts your fair-mindedness, nor your tremendous respect for MLK (though watching you do your own little PC Tap-Dance was kind of amusing). The better news is; it was completely unnecessary. Watch:
Was John Brown a racist? No more, or less so, than MLK in my book… though race dominated their legacies… and both fit the broad definitions you were attempting to hide behind.

You seem to be feigning an inability to see the difference between Black and White. Why pretend that a white guy's preference for whites doesn't meet more definitions of "racism" than a black guy's preference for blacks? Or that this simple matter of fact isn't compelling enough to obliterate the silly suggestions that there is no difference between these two phenomena? Where a black guy can reasonably defend a preference for blacks out of an honest sense of fairness; a white guy's preference for whites (at least in this country) could do no such thing. And you damn well know it.

ci, I have never harmed anyone (outside of a sporting event or a youthful fight).

That seems to bug you. Why are you so unwilling to protect yourself and your family?

Seeing as how you used to be taxi22, and I'm guessing drove a taxi, I bet you owned and carried a piece, possibly illegally.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I wish more blacks would participate in the election process in an informed way.

Thanks for the kind words - the respect is mutual.

However you are dead wrong.

I have had a great deal of experience working with and leading a large number of people of various backgrounds and 'groups' - very likely far more than you. More than anything I have learned they all share the same human nature. Everything else is secondary.

Your statement, "You seem to be feigning an inability to see the difference between Black and White." is dead wrong - I'm feigning nothing. The fact is I don't see much of a difference between them at all. Indeed the differences we detect - and make so much of - are all trivial and of little real importance when the chips are down. The similarities outweigh them by so much as to make the alternative proposition truly laughable. These are truths I have learned through real, often very challenging, experiences with blacks, whites, and Asians from several countries. I know this in a way that transcends mere idealism or abstract thought. I know it is true because I have seen and experienced the truth of it many times.

I have also experienced and dealt with the prejudices of both blacks and whites enough to know that they are reassuringly similar, equally foolish (and usually defensively motivated), equally debilitating to those who hold them, and equally destructive to the common environment.

I don't know whether John Brown was a racist or not. He sought the end of slavery - that alone does not constitute favoritism for any group. The historical record strongly suggests he was a single-minded idealist, a murderer, and probably a paranoid fanatic. Beyond that I don't see much evidence of anything.

Now, if it is deemed necessary that I should forfeit my life for the furtherance of the ends of justice, and mingle my blood further with the blood of my children and with the blood of millions in this slave country whose rights are disregarded by wicked, cruel, and unjust enactments, I submit; so let it be done!"

It is equally clear that King was not a murderer, not a fanatic, and had a far more reasoned and practical approach to the attainment of his purpose than did John Brown.

Your tortured notion that they were equivalent in racism or anything like that - by any definition - doesn't survive a moment's clear thought and analysis.

I did no tap dance with respect to MLK. Reread my posts - what I wrote was factual and uncolored by any pretense or evasion.

Think. Look below the surface. Discard these prefabricated ideas.

OCCOM BILL wrote:

cjhsa wrote:

snood wrote:

Oh, please - educate us ,oh wizened sage...

So, jerkoff, do you just show up here at night to insult people you don't like while hiding behind your computer screen? I said come get me. What's the problem?

Says the ultra tough gun nut, who despite his firepower is still hiding behind a fake name and phony avatar, even while accusing others of doing so. I can ill imagine how a coward could be more openly cowardly. How does that feel cjhsamaracist?

Feels like the Internet. Snood won't come get me, he's chicken. But some other freak might. Our psych pros aren't very good at picking them out lately.

On Obama, I think he'll be slightly scarred by the funding issue that McCain has just advanced. And that's because this complaint has some merit (to be honest, and why not be).

But the reality is that any consequent scarring will be completely insignificant compared against the advantages he will gain from continuing on as he is presently.

One thing the conservative movement has been utterly realistic regarding is that if you do not attain power, you will not have it and others will.

On Obama, I think he'll be slightly scarred by the funding issue that McCain has just advanced. And that's because this complaint has some merit (to be honest, and why not be).

But the reality is that any consequent scarring will be completely insignificant compared against the advantages he will gain from continuing on as he is presently.

One thing the conservative movement has been utterly realistic regarding is that if you do not attain power, you will not have it and others will.