The surge in Iraq is about the only issue McCain has to brag about right now with other Republicans, and I find it incredible that he can do as well as he is on not much of a record on much of anything in the Senate. Claiming he had the idea of the surge is stretching the truth anyway, and crediting the surge for the downward trend of violence in Iraq is also a bit of a distortion, if you examine the details.
OCCOM BILL wrote:nimh wrote:More damning stuff on a Clinton in the media today - this time on Hillary herself:
Sweet!
Not a good Clinton morning, so far. I doubt there are many lawyers in the Senate or Congress who don't have this sort of skeleton kicking about but that's probably irrelevant, perception being all.
Lovely little beginning to Gail Collins column this morning in the NY Times
Quote:Farewell to John Edwards and Rudy Giuliani. Guess which one is planning to devote his life to helping the poor? No fair looking it up.
/the subprime mortgage debacle is not going to disappear any time soon. It'll also be one of the major issues for the new president; people losing their homes by the thousands will impact more than the families losing their homes. The nightmare has just begun.
blatham wrote:OCCOM BILL wrote:nimh wrote:More damning stuff on a Clinton in the media today - this time on Hillary herself:
Sweet!
Not a good Clinton morning, so far. I doubt there are many lawyers in the Senate or Congress who don't have this sort of skeleton kicking about but that's probably irrelevant, perception being all.
Great, blatham, the "everybody does it" defense, made famous by your buddy, Bill Clinton, himself.
She had a lot of good lines!
Quote:"I want the Republicans to feel the way I did in 2004," said Mike Sherzan, an Iowan who was for Edwards in the caucus while his wife was for Clinton and his son was with Obama. (Basically, everybody's son is with Obama.)
Quote:But J.F.K.'s grand achievement was the raising of expectations, not the follow-through. His administration was a decidedly mixed bag, during which people spent a great deal of time building nuclear fallout shelters.
Quote: And to tell the truth, I never imagined sitting in a gym in small-town Kansas, watching people whoop for a black, Hawaii-born, grandson-of-a-son of the Kansas soil who promised to bring their hometown values with him to the White House.
We may remember this as a great campaign, people. Presuming they don't screw it up.
blatham wrote:OCCOM BILL wrote:nimh wrote:More damning stuff on a Clinton in the media today - this time on Hillary herself:
Sweet!
Not a good Clinton morning, so far. I doubt there are many lawyers in the Senate or Congress who don't have this sort of skeleton kicking about but that's probably irrelevant, perception being all.
Agreed.
The part I'm finding
sweet is continuing assurance that the press isn't exhibiting an anti-Obama bias (seems quite the contrary
). I was concerned the other night that I'd wake up to Hillary's non-win in Florida would be the dominant news piece... and was quite relieved when it wasn't. The piece above isn't earth-shattering, but it tells me that Obama will need to be beaten by Hillary & Co.; because the machine hasn't yet been programmed to destroy him.
soz said
Quote:She had a lot of good lines!
Collins has kind of popped out of the blue for me. Great writer and very funny indeed.
I'm secretly hoping that Tonya Harding will beat Maureen Dowd senseless with a hubcab.
okie wrote:and crediting the surge for the downward trend of violence in Iraq is also a bit of a distortion, if you examine the details.
If this wasn't said in the context of you attacking McCain I doubt we'd ever hear these words come out of your mouth.
I agree with you here of course, but I am shocked to hear you say it. If McCain wasn't using it in his advantage I'm 100% sure you'd have a different opinion.
OCCOM BILL wrote:blatham wrote:OCCOM BILL wrote:nimh wrote:More damning stuff on a Clinton in the media today - this time on Hillary herself:
Sweet!
Not a good Clinton morning, so far. I doubt there are many lawyers in the Senate or Congress who don't have this sort of skeleton kicking about but that's probably irrelevant, perception being all.
Agreed.
The part I'm finding
sweet is continuing assurance that the press isn't exhibiting an anti-Obama bias (seems quite the contrary
). I was concerned the other night that I'd wake up to Hillary's non-win in Florida would be the dominant news piece... and was quite relieved when it wasn't. The piece above isn't earth-shattering, but it tells me that Obama will need to be beaten by Hillary & Co.; because the machine hasn't yet been programmed to destroy him.
There's something of an ironic consequence in this contest (which will apply in the general as well to some degree). Both campaigns are necessarily in walking-on-eggshell mode because of the race and gender sensitivity factors. You can say merely "X!" and it can be construed as a gender-baiting or as a race-baiting even if that construal is really quite unwarranted. One of the ironies here is that the race is really quite civilized because of this, but its often perceived as mean/nasty for the same reason.
maporsche, I've had a different opinion ever since I read about other things that have affected events there, such as capturing key people with maps, which allowed us to round quite a few people up that were involved in the violence, and this was done or could have been done without the surge. I think I posted this once several weeks ago somewhere on one thread.
okie wrote:maporsche, I've had a different opinion ever since I read about other things that have affected events there, such as capturing key people with maps, which allowed us to round quite a few people up that were involved in the violence, and this was done or could have been done without the surge. I think I posted this once several weeks ago somewhere on one thread.
I must have missed that one, there's been too much to keep up on the last few weeks with the primary's taking hold.
Thanks for clarifying.
okie wrote:blatham wrote:OCCOM BILL wrote:nimh wrote:More damning stuff on a Clinton in the media today - this time on Hillary herself:
Sweet!
Not a good Clinton morning, so far. I doubt there are many lawyers in the Senate or Congress who don't have this sort of skeleton kicking about but that's probably irrelevant, perception being all.
Great, blatham, the "everybody does it" defense, made famous by your buddy, Bill Clinton, himself.
I'm not making a defense. I'm speaking of the realities of doing legal representation and the realities of political perception.
I don't have a preference between these two (previously more) candidates because I can't effectively determine for myself who will run a better administration nor even (yet) who has the better chance of winniing the general.
My fundamental concern is to see the movement you represent gain the discreditation and powerlessnes it so richly deserves.
Obama raises 32 million - in January alone. 99% from individual donors.
Cycloptichorn
From Glenn Greenwald on the topic of bi-partisanship (he's talking about Bloomburg, not Barack). But we all need to be clear about the difference between what comes out of peoples' mouths and what is real...
Quote:To support the new Bush-supported FISA law:
GOP - 48-0
Dems - 12-36
To compel redeployment of troops from Iraq:
GOP - 0-49
Dems - 24-21
To confirm Michael Mukasey as Attorney General:
GOP - 46-0
Dems - 7-40
To confirm Leslie Southwick as Circuit Court Judge:
GOP - 49-0
Dems - 8-38
Kyl-Lieberman Resolution on Iran:
GOP - 46-2
Dems - 30-20
To condemn MoveOn.org:
GOP - 49-0
Dems - 23-25
The Protect America Act:
GOP - 44-0
Dems - 20-28
Declaring English to be the Government's official language:
GOP - 48-1
Dems - 16-33
The Military Commissions Act:
GOP - 53-0
Dems - 12-34
To renew the Patriot Act:
GOP - 54-0
Dems - 34-10
Cloture Vote on Sam Alito's confirmation to the Supreme Court:
GOP - 54-0
Dems - 18-25
Authorization to Use Military Force in Iraq:
GOP - 48-1
Dems - 29-22
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/?last_story=/opinion/greenwald/2008/01/31/the_right/
Isn't this a great photo?
blatham wrote:Isn't this a great photo?
Let me guess. That was after he sat on the whoopie cushion Bill put on his chair at the debate.
