Obama '08?

Read the most recent post in response to georgeob's that shows how costs were compared. Your statement is "personal opinion" without evidence or fact.

But that doesn't precisely compare Medicare/Medicaid to private, now does it?

Getting back to Barry Obama... he is kind of a dick, but does anyone know if he's playing golf today.

Getting back to Barry Obama... does anyone know if he's playing golf today.

There's an Asian saying, picture worth a thousand words, but some people can't read simple graphs that show costs for private insurance and Medicare.

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Was G.W. Bush's Medicare drug benefit "Program".the biggest Entitlement program ever? Or just since Johnson?


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Republicans don't know how to do anything efficiently. Their solution was to throw a ton of money at the problem so the pharmaceutical companies can keep their massive profits and we will get stuck with the problem later in the form of massive debt.

If a progressive had made the program he/she would have used cost controls like HCR is doing.

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Hey, okie, your social security and Medicare benefits is a ponzi scheme.

Why don't you tell the government you no longer want your social security and Medicare, because it's a ponzi scheme.

Hey, okie, your social security and Medicare benefits is a ponzi scheme.

Why don't you tell the government you no longer want your social security and Medicare, because it's a ponzi scheme.

FYI, GW Bush increased the cost of Medicare with his drug plan - even as congress approved increasing the debt ceiling ten times in eight years.

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Was G.W. Bush's Medicare drug benefit "Program".the biggest Entitlement program ever? Or just since Johnson?


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Republicans don't know how to do anything efficiently. Their solution was to throw a ton of money at the problem so the pharmaceutical companies can keep their massive profits and we will get stuck with the problem later in the form of massive debt.

If a progressive had made the program he/she would have used cost controls like HCR is doing.

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"Confiscated?" Do you understand anything about taxation laws in the US?

Also, are you speaking from hindsight or no-sight, because you'll be collecting more than you put in.

Unlike most of you imbeciles who doesn't know what you are talking about, I have kept records since our first year of marriage back in 1963.

My wife and I paid towards social security and Medicare totaling $132,000, and received social security benefits of more than $355,000 (to December 2010), and my prostate cancer treatment alone in 2008 cost about $43,000 for which I paid zero, and I've been getting Medicare since 2000 with only co-pays for everything which has been a bargain - compared to what people have paid for private insurance.

Your ignorance continues on....

Ooh, you said 'major' in that post, but what you really meant to say was 'minor.' It only takes minor changes to either program to continue their existence for a long, long time.

Cycloptichorn

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Ooh, you said 'major' in that post, but what you really meant to say was 'minor.' It only takes minor changes to either program to continue their existence for a long, long time.

Cycloptichorn

You might consider raising the retirement age for social security a minor reform, but for people that have worked and relied upon being able to retire at a certain age, it is probably not minor at all.

Also, if a change to Medicare involves not paying for a procedure or treatment now, versus a previous policy to pay for it, that would save your life, that would not be a minor change. In other words, the government can decide you are no longer worth spending money on anymore. Hello: "Death Panels."

You are the embicile, ci. You will defend any Democratically backed program, no matter the level of mismanagement. I have paid in over 200 grand now I think, and I will only collect more than I paid in, if I live long enough. Chances are not slim that I will not. Besides that, if I had been allowed to keep the money and invest it, the sum would probably have been upwards of 300 grand, possibly a half million or even considerably more.

Besides that, if I had been allowed to keep the money and invest it, the sum would probably have been upwards of 300 grand, possibly a half million or even considerably more.

I should tell ya - those panels already exist, in Medicare and in private insurance. So I don't know why you are surprised by this at all.

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The survey of 1,502 adults, conducted nationwide June 15 to 19, finds mixed opinions on the three best known entitlement programs: Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. When asked separately about each of the three programs, huge majorities (between 77 and 87 percent) say each of the programs has been "good for the country," but less than half (36 to 41 percent) rate the job they do "serving recipients" as excellent or good.

You think you paid over 200 grand? That's not even a supportable statement. In other words, it's bull ****! If you don't know how much you put into something, don't say "I have paid in over 200 grand - now I think." It makes you look more stupid!

You follow up the first unsupportable statement with another bull **** conclusion,

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Besides that, if I had been allowed to keep the money and invest it, the sum would probably have been upwards of 300 grand, possibly a half million or even considerably more.

Why do you make an effort to make yourself look more stupid? It must be a gift from god.

If you truly believe your personal investments would have produced "300 grand to a half million," show us how you made the calculations?

You are clueless as to what happened to most people's retirement savings since 2008, from the Great Recession, the impact on the stock market, and from the loss of jobs and homes since then.