JTT
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 07:53 pm
@ican711nm,
Once more, Ican, this time with feeling.
okie
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 08:28 pm
My first check of the news and A2K today, but this news item seems worthy to post, because it continues to prove the president must have affection for some very radical people. Is this guy invited to the Whitehouse actually a legitimate poet or musician, or is is he merely a purveyor of hatred? I tend to think the latter, and so why would a president invite such a person to the "Peoples House?" This does not at all add any respect for the president in my book.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/10/white-house-invite-political-rapper-stirs-controversy/

"Common is not known as a gangsta rapper, but some of his songs and poems feature violent imagery. In one poem, he called for the metaphorical burning of President George W. Bush -- a "burning Bush.""
JTT
 
  1  
Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 10:01 pm
@okie,
Quote:
so why would a president invite such a person to the "Peoples House?"


The "people's house" has seen a wide array of war criminals so unless this guy is an axe murderer, Okie, he's fine. Even if he was an axe murderer, he would be in good company.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 10:22 pm
@okie,
Quote:
it continues to prove the president must have affection for some very radical people


The right is also radical. The concept of radical has to include both poles.

Quote:
a purveyor of hatred


Are you speaking about yourself? H2Oman?
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 10:27 pm
@realjohnboy,
Quote:
RJB addressing H2oman: What is your expectation based on your reading?


I saw this soon after it was posted. This deadpan response really made me laugh. I decided to leave it alone for a bit entertaining the notion that h2oman might respond.

Boy, was I foolish to even consider that a remote possibility!
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revelette
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:52 am
@okie,
I don't agree with the violent tones of rap, I think even though the lyrics are metaphors and not meant to be taken literally, they do not send a good message. I think rap music and poems the way most of them are now do incite violence even though for the most part it is poetic expression.

Quote:
The most coherent support for Common’s work came from Bradley Markham, who grew up in an African-American neighborhood in Texas, and then studied science and poetry at Stanford University before working for Google. Common is “not my favorite poet, not my favorite actor, but not a cop killer, inciter of violence, or racist,” he said. Rather, he is “often mocked as a softy in the rap circles, an intellectual who thinks too much,” Markham said.

Common’s “Burn a Bush” statement, he said, “is basically another way to say ‘F… President Bush’, without using the curse word…but nobody in the intended audience thought he was saying anything else,” such as a murder attempt.

Common’s rap, Markham said, “goes on to list some grievances that the black community may have, and that’s where he says ‘don’t retaliate with guns, use your mind instead’… he’s saying he has one weapon, his mind, and its bigger and badder and better than what any police have,” he said.

“Hopefully when you look at it through the eyes and hear it through the ears of its intended audience, you’ll have a better appreciation for what he was saying,” Markham said.


source

Eminem had similar lyrics concerning the war and Bush.

"Mosh"

Quote:
Conservatives such as Fox News, the Daily Caller and Sarah Palin are criticizing the White House's invitation to rapper Common for a poetry event over the purported vulgarity of his lyrics. Fox Nation, for instance, called Common a "vile rapper."

But roughly half-a-year ago, Fox News had a different tone about Common. In an October 2010 report for FoxNews.com, reporter Jason Robinson interviewed the "rap legend" and told him, "your music is very positive. And you're known as the conscious rapper. How important is that to you, and how important do you think that is to our kids?"

Common replied that it's a "significant role. I just try to show who we are as well-rounded people and I'm happy to be known as the conscious artist."



source with links
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 08:38 am
@revelette,
Gee, surprise, surprise, Okie, too, is as honest as a second is long.
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revelette
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 08:40 am
Rocker Ted Nugent performs The Star-Spangled Banner on his guitar to open the NRA's annual convention in Houston in April.

Quote:
In January he held a concert in the Crawford school gym, raising more than $30,000 so the marching band could perform at Bush's inauguration parade in Washington, D.C.

Nugent may not hang out with Bush when both are in town, but the rocker says he has supported him since his first run for governor in 1994.

When Nugent attended a private Washington, D.C., party after the 2000 presidential election, Bush hugged him and said "just keep doing what you're doing," he said.


'Stamp of approval'
"It was hysterical as a stamp of approval to all the status-quo, old-guard political people that you can be bold and brazen, that you can make a statement ... and the president will still embrace you," Nugent said.


source


http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2007/01/18/nugent.jpg

Quote:
Ted Nugent says Gov. Rick Perry had no problem with his decision to wear a Confederate flag shirt during his appearance at last week's inaugural ball — and even complimented his performance.

Nugent, 58, said Perry talked to him backstage after the black-tie event, complimenting him on "the greatest rock 'n' roll" and thanking him for coming, several newspapers reported Tuesday. The governor also called over the weekend, ending the conversation by telling Nugent to "give 'em hell," Nugent was quoted as saying.

Perry spokesman Robert Black said the governor wouldn't wear such a shirt, but told Nugent he has the right to wear whatever he wants.

"If you're going to defend freedom of expression, then you're going to have to defend all freedom of expression," Black said.

When asked if Perry would have invited Nugent if he had known what he would wear, Black said: "Yes."

Gary Bledsoe, president of the Texas chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, has criticized Nugent's decision to wear the shirt, saying it symbolized "the enslavement of African-Americans and more recently the symbol of hate groups and terrorists."

Nugent, a hunting and gun-rights advocate, lived in Michigan most of his life before moving to Crawford in 2003. The Motor City Madman is famed for his 1977 hit Cat Scratch Fever.


source
plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 08:43 am
@revelette,
Thanks for putting things in perspective by posting a story about a right wing performer who is as violent as Common and other rappers.

BTW, back in the 60s, ted nugent was considered a definite third string performer, even in his native Michigan.
ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 09:21 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
Once more, Ican, this time with feeling.

Quote:

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/us/

UNEMPLOYED PERSONS IN THE USA
April 2011 = 13,747,000
March 2011 = 13,542,000
February 2011 = 13,673,000
January 2011 = 13,863,000
December 2010 = 14,485,000

How's that trend "workin' out for yah?"
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 09:47 am
@plainoldme,
Who's ted nugent?
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 09:49 am
@ican711nm,
Definitely lacks the necessary feeling, Ican. Same bland old nonsense that you're so famous for.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 09:52 am
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

JTT wrote:
Once more, Ican, this time with feeling.

Quote:

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/us/

UNEMPLOYED PERSONS IN THE USA
April 2011 = 13,747,000
March 2011 = 13,542,000
February 2011 = 13,673,000
January 2011 = 13,863,000
December 2010 = 14,485,000

How's that trend "workin' out for yah?"


It's not working out so great, which is why we're still pissed at Bush and the Republicans for ******* the economy up terribly for 8 solid years with nothing to show for it.

Cycloptichorn
ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 10:01 am
@JTT,
Your,
JTT wrote:
same bland old nonsense that you're so famous for.

JTT, you poor fella! You apparently can't make a rational rebuttal!

ican711nm
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 10:25 am
@Cycloptichorn,
cycloptichorn wrote:
It's not working out so great, which is why we're still pissed at Bush and the Republicans for ******* the economy up terribly for 8 solid years with nothing to show for it.


Cyclo, it's long passed time for you to face reality and be "pissed at [Obama and the Democrats] for ******* the economy up terribly for 2 solid years with nothing to show for it. "

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2009/pdf/hist.pdf
Federal Receipts during the period 1980 - 2007 increased from $0.517 to $2.568 trillion, and during the period 2007 - 2010 (while Democrats controlled both houses of Congress, and 2009 - 2010 while a Democrat was president) decreased from $2.568 trillion to $2,165 trillion.

Federal Outlays during the period 1980 - 2010 increased from $0.591 to $3.721 trillion.

Federal Deficits during the period 1980 - 2000 decreased from -$0.0738 to +$0.236 trillion, and during the period 2000 - 2010 increased from +$0.236 trillion to -$1.556 trillion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_U.S._public_debt
Year………GROSS FEDERAL DEBT
1980.......$0.908 trillion [CARTER]
1988….….$2.602 trillion [REAGAN], average annual increase 1980 - 1988 = $0.2118 trillion
1992........$4.065 trillion [BUSH41], average annual increase 1988 - 1992 = $0.3658 trillion
2000.......$5.674 trillion [CLINTON], average annual increase 1992 - 2000 = $0.2011 trillion
2008.......$10.025 trillion [BUSH43], average annual increase 2000 - 2008 = $0.5439 trillion
2010.......$13.562 trillion [OBAMA], average annual increase 2008 - 2010 = $1.7685 trillion

Total US Civil Employment during the period 1980 - 2007 increased from 99.3 to 146 million, and during the period 2007 - 2010 decreased from 146 to 139 million.

plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 10:32 am
@ican711nm,
Quote:
How's that trend "workin' out for yah?"


How does your total lack of intellection, perspective, history and logic work for you?

Is paraphrasing the crude and semi-literate palin sufficient?
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 10:33 am
@ican711nm,
Quote:
JTT, you poor fella! You apparently can't make a rational rebuttal!

Sad Laughing Rolling Eyes Drunk
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 10:38 am
@ican711nm,
Obama's been saddled with trying to fix the problems that your group left. He has only had partial success in doing so. But nothing they did caused our recession or has made it worse at all.

Cycloptichorn
H2O MAN
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 10:42 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Bullshit!

Obama is the problem and he has no desire to be any part of the solution.
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