parados
 
  1  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 06:13 am
@okie,
Gee.. okie..
And you agree with people calling someone a lesbian would be dots to connect.
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Gargamel
 
  2  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 09:07 am
We're all clear that simply not liking a guy's politics doesn't qualify him as socialist, right? And the fact that you get slammed and outclassed on this board everyday also doesn't make said guy a socialist. Finally, saying that he is a socialist doesn't make him one either.

Just making sure we're all on the same page.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:19 pm
Quote:

updated 3/17/2011 10:14:48 AM ET 2011-03-17T14:14:48
Share Print Font: +-WASHINGTON — Fewer people applied for unemployment benefits last week, providing support for the view that there will be stronger job growth this year.

And the nation's factories produced more cars, appliances, computers and furniture last month, in a sign that manufacturing would continue to rev up the U.S. economic engine despite the growing nuclear crisis in Japan. Manufacturing output rose for the sixth straight month.

An index of U.S. economic health rose for an eight straight month in February, suggesting the U.S. economic recovery remains well positioned to withstand challenges like high unemployment and rising energy prices.


Thank you, Obama. You rock.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:32 pm
@MontereyJack,
MJ, Most of us - even independents such as myself - already knew that Obama has prevented a worse Great Recession, but you wouldn't know it if we listened only to conservatives.

They think they have a mandate to destroy unions, but they're on the wrong path to their own parties destruction. The majority of Americans support unions for good reason; they understand that without unions, workers have no protection. The benefits American workers gained during the past 50 years can be credited to unions.

The GOP is working to destroy the middle class in this country; a very stupid goal.

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okie
 
  -1  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:32 pm
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
okie wrote:

... Obama hanging out with communists and socialists, talking about spreading the wealth around, and favoring
single payer government health care, those would be ample dots indicating Obama leans socialist.
You are correct sir!
It really is not that hard to figure out, is it H2OMAN? It can be summed up by the old saying "Birds of a feather flock together." There were reasons why Obama found guys like Ayers and the Reverend Wright to be good friends, mentors, etc.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:35 pm
@okie,
Geezus kristen, okie, you, can, and a few others are the same breed of birds. You just can never look at yourself, because that'll only destroy your ego.

You lie, exaggerate, and don't know the US Constitution or remember history. You're a joke - even to conservatives.
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okie
 
  -1  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:37 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Thank you, Obama. You rock.

Yeah, thanks to Obama, only 22% of the voters believe the U.S. is heading in the right direction.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

"Just 22% believe the U.S. is heading in the right direction. That's down five points from a week ago and the lowest total since President Obama took office. "

And Rasumussen has Obama's strongly approve / strongly disapprove index down to Minus 20, near his alltime low.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_index_graphics/march_2011/obama_approval_index_march_17_2011/466680-1-eng-US/obama_approval_index_march_17_2011.jpg
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_total_approval_graphics/march_2011/obama_total_approval_march_17_2011/466683-1-eng-US/obama_total_approval_march_17_2011.jpg
Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:41 pm
@okie,
It was regularly 10-15% in the right direction under Bush, so who gives a ****?

Your Rasmussen polls are useless and you know it, they do nothing more than give you what you want to hear, consistently.

Cycloptichorn
hawkeye10
 
  -1  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:43 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Quote:
Your Rasmussen polls are useless and you know it, they do nothing more than give you what you want to hear, consistently.
so why dont you provide the same inforamtion from a source that you like better?? Could it be because that is not going to make Obama look much better?
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:51 pm
okie says:
Quote:

Obama hanging out with communists and socialists, talking about spreading the wealth around, and favoring
single payer government health care, those would be ample dots indicating Obama leans socialist.

Right, that's why he spent all that time and effort with socialist bankers and financial institutions and commie auto executives, pulling their nuts out of the fire, and propping up the plutocratic capitalist economy when its self-inflicted wounds were about to bring it down. It's an inverse My Lai--he knew he had to save the capitalist system in order to destroy it. And single-payer health care, we all KNOW that's a commie plot--that's why we only find it in those commie countries like England, Ireland, Canada, Germany, France, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Spain, Italy, Japan,,,,my god, the list goes on, Reds, all of them, dirty rotten commies the lot.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:52 pm
Take a look at the economic news, okie, the country IS headed in the right direction.
realjohnboy
 
  1  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:53 pm
@hawkeye10,
Approve/Disapprove from 4 polls:
Gallup ... (3/14-3/16) ... 1500 A: 50-43 = +7
Rasmussen ... (3/14-3/16) ... 1500 LV: 44-55 = -11
CNN ... (3/11-3/13) ... 1023 A: 50-47 = +3
ABC/Wash Post ... (3/10-3/13) ... 1005 A: 51-45 = +6
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:55 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

Approve/Disapprove from 4 polls:
Gallup ... (3/14-3/16) ... 1500 A: 50-43 = +7
Rasmussen ... (3/14-3/16) ... 1500 LV: 44-55 = -11
CNN ... (3/11-3/13) ... 1023 A: 50-47 = +3
ABC/Wash Post ... (3/10-3/13) ... 1005 A: 51-45 = +6


Thanks RJB, I was just about to do that.

Hawk, it's pretty clear that other polling does not reflect the same that Ras does. And it NEVER does, on their opinion polls.

Cycloptichorn
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:56 pm
Quote:
There is another risk for the president. His failure to bring rhetoric and action into alignment is becoming a metaphor for his entire presidency. In too many cases, his inspirational rhetoric has not been matched by a gusto for the action and tough leadership that many think necessary. Whether on the issue of the extension of the Bush tax cuts or intervention in support of the Libyan opposition, the gap between flowing words and inaction is getting more difficult to tolerate. The mode he seems to prefer—waiting for a consensus to form and then joining it—might be fine in many situations. But such a style is ill-suited to a decision about intervention to support those seeking to throw off the yoke of an autocratic leader.
http://www.slate.com/id/2288595/

And ill-suited for fixing a broken global economic system and a broken America...
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okie
 
  0  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:56 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Take a look at the economic news, okie, the country IS headed in the right direction.
It does not surprise me that the economy is turning around slightly. I have long believed in the American people and their / our resiliency. However, I believe most people believe as I do, that any perceived turnaround is fairly lackluster and feeble in context with what it could be and should be if we had better leadership and more business friendly economic policies.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 12:56 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cyclo, It's not never.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  2  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 01:03 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

MontereyJack wrote:
Take a look at the economic news, okie, the country IS headed in the right direction.
It does not surprise me that the economy is turning around slightly. I have long believed in the American people and their / our resiliency. However, I believe most people believe as I do, that any perceived turnaround is fairly lackluster and feeble in context with what it could be and should be if we had better leadership and more business friendly economic policies.


But you don't know how those policies would actually help anything, you're just repeating bullshit that you've heard and read from other conservatives, who basically don't know how any of it really works either.

You live in a world of talking points and simple answers. It's not a compelling narrative and it's probably why approval ratings and confidence in the Republicans in congress have plummeted in the last few months - they aren't actually doing anything they said they would do, re: jobs and the economy. Nothing.

Cycloptichorn
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okie
 
  -1  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 01:04 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Right, that's why he spent all that time and effort with socialist bankers and financial institutions and commie auto executives, pulling their nuts out of the fire, and propping up the plutocratic capitalist economy when its self-inflicted wounds were about to bring it down. It's an inverse My Lai--he knew he had to save the capitalist system in order to destroy it. And single-payer health care, we all KNOW that's a commie plot--that's why we only find it in those commie countries like England, Ireland, Canada, Germany, France, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Spain, Italy, Japan,,,,my god, the list goes on, Reds, all of them, dirty rotten commies the lot.
Come on, you can do better than that, MJ. We had the best health care system in the world, and most people think we should have made the necessary reforms to improve it, rather than scrapping the whole thing for a very convoluted and confused legislation that will be causing more problems than it was intended to fix. Face it, Obama did not know what he was doing, and neither did his Democratic Congress. Even Pelosi admitted we should pass the legislation in order to find out what was in it. What kind of insanity is that, and where did such losers come from?

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/03/10/video-of-the-week-we-have-to-pass-the-bill-so-you-can-find-out-what-is-in-it/

"We have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it”"
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 01:05 pm
@okie,
Quote:
Come on, you can do better than that, MJ. We had the best health care system in the world


LOL

Pull the other one, it's got bells on

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Thu 17 Mar, 2011 01:12 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
okie never knows any subject matter he opines on, and is usually so far off that his views are never credible. The latest ranking of health care by country was done in 2000, and later ones do not exist, because of the complexity. The US was 37th in 2000.

Quote:
Rank CountryView this list in alphabetic order View this list in alphabetic order View this list in alphabetic order

1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 United States of America

38 Slovenia
39 Cuba
40 Brunei
41 New Zealand
42 Bahrain
43 Croatia
44 Qatar
45 Kuwait
46 Barbados
47 Thailand
48 Czech Republic
49 Malaysia
50 Poland
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