Obama '08?

@Cycloptichorn,

In addition, I can't take seriously a legal opinion that references Reason TV inside it.

Cycloptichorn

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@parados,

parados wrote:

Do you think the 2010 deficit was $160 billion?

NO!

Good, you are paying attention!

If you were to examine carefully the link I provided, you would have learned that the numbers I provided were the exact numbers provided by "whitehouse.gov." I rarely believe what the whitehouse says is accurate. How about you?

However, I believe their data accurate enough to show that the 50% federal tax reduction within the last decade permitted annual increases in federal revenue.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Our country has Ssocial Security and Medicare, a form of mandate on insurance at the federal level.

Yes siree!
Looks like Social Security and Medicare, a form of mandate for some, may be illegal too.

However, there are some who are not required to pay social security and medicare over their entire adult lifetimes: for example, those who are retired, those working for the federal government, and those who are unemployed.

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@ican711nm,

Quote:

If you were to examine carefully the link I provided, you would have learned that the numbers I provided were the exact numbers provided by "whitehouse.gov." I rarely believe what the whitehouse says is accurate. How about you?

If you were paying attention, you would have noticed you were using numbers from the BUSH WH. I gave you a link to the latest numbers.

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http://www.youtube.com/user/PalesInComparison#p/u

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@plainoldme,

POM your a liberal and shouldent be posting things you dont understand. Besides I want sarah to run!

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@RABEL222,

I strongly suspect that I understand sooooo much more than you. sarah should run . . . away. No country is so bereft of sense or ethics as to need her. The only bright spot about the thought of her running for president is that she would quit half way through her first term.

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@parados,

Quote:

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy11/hist.html
Table 1.1—SUMMARY OF RECEIPTS, OUTLAYS, AND SURPLUSES OR DEFICITS (−): ... 1980 - 2010
(in millions of dollars)
Year Total
Receipts Outlays Surplus or Deficit(−)
1980 517,112 590,941 -73,830
1981 599,272 678,241 -78,968
1982 617,766 745,743 -127,977
1983 600,562 808,364 -207,802
1984 666,438 851,805 -185,367
1985 734,037 946,344 -212,308
1986 769,155 990,382 -221,227
1987 854,288 1,004,017 -149,730
1988 909,238 1,064,416 -155,178
1989 991,105 1,143,744 -152,639
1990 1,031,972 1,253,007 -221,036
1991 1,054,996 1,324,234 -269,238
1992 1,091,223 1,381,543 -290,321
1993 1,154,341 1,409,392 -255,051
1994 1,258,579 1,461,766 -203,186
1995 1,351,801 1,515,753 -163,952
1996 1,453,055 1,560,486 -107,431
1997 1,579,240 1,601,124 -21,884
1998 1,721,733 1,652,463 69,270
1999 1,827,459 1,701,849 125,610
2000 2,025,198 1,788,957 236,241
2001 1,991,142 1,862,906 128,236
2002 1,853,149 2,010,907 -157,758
2003 1,782,321 2,159,906 -377,585
2004 1,880,126 2,292,853 -412,727
2005 2,153,625 2,471,971 -318,346
2006 2,406,876 2,655,057 -248,181
2007 2,568,001 2,728,702 -160,701
2008 2,523,999 2,982,554 -458,555
2009 2,104,995 3,517,681 -1,412,686
2010 2,165,119 3,720,701 -1,555,582 (estimate)

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@plainoldme,

I just want to see a debate between Sarah and any other candidate that runs in 2012. Will she also do interviews? LOL

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@ican711nm,

Quote:

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy11/hist.html
Table 1.1—SUMMARY OF RECEIPTS, OUTLAYS, AND SURPLUSES OR DEFICITS (−): ... 1980 - 2010
(in millions of dollars)
Year Total
Receipts Outlays Surplus or Deficit(−)
1980 517,112 590,941 -73,830
1981 599,272 678,241 -78,968
1982 617,766 745,743 -127,977
1983 600,562 808,364 -207,802
1984 666,438 851,805 -185,367
1985 734,037 946,344 -212,308
1986 769,155 990,382 -221,227
1987 854,288 1,004,017 -149,730
1988 909,238 1,064,416 -155,178
1989 991,105 1,143,744 -152,639
1990 1,031,972 1,253,007 -221,036
1991 1,054,996 1,324,234 -269,238
1992 1,091,223 1,381,543 -290,321
1993 1,154,341 1,409,392 -255,051
1994 1,258,579 1,461,766 -203,186
1995 1,351,801 1,515,753 -163,952
1996 1,453,055 1,560,486 -107,431
1997 1,579,240 1,601,124 -21,884
1998 1,721,733 1,652,463 69,270
1999 1,827,459 1,701,849 125,610
2000 2,025,198 1,788,957 236,241
2001 1,991,142 1,862,906 128,236
2002 1,853,149 2,010,907 -157,758
2003 1,782,321 2,159,906 -377,585
2004 1,880,126 2,292,853 -412,727
2005 2,153,625 2,471,971 -318,346
2006 2,406,876 2,655,057 -248,181
2007 2,568,001 2,728,702 -160,701
2008 2,523,999 2,982,554 -458,555
2009 2,104,995 3,517,681 -1,412,686
2010 2,165,119 3,720,701 -1,555,582 (estimate)

CORRECTIONS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2051527/posts
Maximum income tax rates were decreased by a factor of 0.5 from the 70% they were in 1981 to the 35% they have been 2003 to 2010.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2009/pdf/hist.pdf
Federal Receipts during the period 1980 - 2007 increased by a factor of 4.97 from $0.517 to 2.568 trillion, and decreased by a factor of o.843 during the period 2007 - 2010 from $2.568 trillion to 2,165 trillion.

Federal Outlays during the period 1980 - 2010 increased by a factor of 6.30 from $0.591 to $3.721 trillion.

Federal Deficits during the period 1980 - 2000 decreased from -$0.0738 to +0.236 trillion, and increased during the period 2007 - 2010 from +$0.236 trillion to -1.556 trillion..

ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cpseea1.txt
Civilian Non-institutional Population during the period 1980 - 2007 increased more than a factor of 1.41 from 168 to 238 million.

Total US Civil Employment during the period 1980 - 2007 increased more than a factor of 1.47 from 99.3 to 146 million.

Total US Civil Employment during the period 2007 - 2010 decreased by more than a factor of 0.95 from 146 to 139 million.

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I see that Senator Mitch McConnell (R) appears to have succeeded in attaching an amendment repealing the entire health care legislation to a Federal Aviation Administration for airport improvement.
The Dems seem to be willing to let the bill go forward, with a vote later tonight or Wednesday or perhaps Thursday.
McConnell says that all 47 Repubs will vote in favor of the FAA bill/repeal of health care. The Dems are equally confident that they will prevail and can bring back the FAA portion later on as a stand alone.

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@realjohnboy,

Good for Mitch.

I wonder if any Democrats will jump ship this early, like a few did in the House.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Good for Mitch.

I wonder if any Democrats will jump ship this early, like a few did in the House.

I wouldn't bet on it. And even so, it would still take 60 votes to get it passed. That's never going to happen.

This is a symbolic vote, so that Republicans can say 'we did what we promised we would do!' There's zero chance of it going anywhere.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

I'm not (betting on it)...too early.

I'm also not predicting that it will pass the Senate and I doubt Mitch is either.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

I'm not (betting on it)...too early.

I'm also not predicting that it will pass the Senate and I doubt Mitch is either.

So what's the point? Just to waste everyone's time?

I think that the Republicans still have been unable to pivot away from their 'party of no' mentality to any sort of productive stance at all. And you bunch still seem convinced that this is going to work out well for you.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

How well has the "Hope and Change" thing worked for Democrats?

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@georgeob1,

georgeob1 wrote:

How well has the "Hope and Change" thing worked for Democrats?

Pretty good! Obama is looking strong and is likely to get re-elected. The Iraq war got wound down on schedule. DADT got repealed. Our economy is picking up a little bit. The WH actually is a bit more open and appears to act with much more integrity than the last one.

HC Reform passed. FinReform passed, with a great Consumer Financial protection agency. Two new Liberal SC judges on the bench.

What's not to like? It hasn't been perfect but I'd say it's gone very well so far. How's it working out for YOU? My guess is not as well as you'd hoped.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

NBC/WSJ poll:

Quote:

By Mark Murray Deputy political director
NBC News NBC News
updated 1/19/2011 8:27:08 PM ET 2011-01-20T01:27:08
WASHINGTON — What a difference a few weeks can make.

Last month, Republicans were celebrating their midterm victories; Democrats were licking their electoral wounds; and President Barack Obama’s approval rating was stuck in the mid-40s.

But after a five-week stretch that included bipartisan legislative achievements in the lame-duck session of Congress, mostly positive economic news and Obama’s well-received speech honoring the victims of the tragic shootings in Arizona, the political world has taken an abrupt turn in direction.

According to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, Obama’s approval rating has surged above 50 percent; confidence in the economy also has spiked; and the Democratic Party — but not the GOP — now enjoys a net-positive rating from the American public.
Read the full poll (.pdf)

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@ican711nm,

Congrats ican.. You have corrected your source.

Now you only need to correct your math and your conclusions.

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@ican711nm,

Different numbers and different math errors.

You are quite entertaining though ican. If nothing else you show how a 3rd grader might attempt math.

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