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"reasonable accounting method" to keep foreign money separate and have enough money from U.S. sources to cover the donations.

In recent weeks, the government pressured the organizations not to publish the sensitive information, some of which officials argued could undermine U.S. security. The Times and the Guardian said they had withheld information that could endanger individuals.

On Sunday, the White House condemned the release in a statement: "President Obama supports responsible, accountable and open government at home and around the world, but this reckless and dangerous action runs counter to that goal."

Some of the information in the documents is new; some simply adds detail to ongoing issues. According to the reports, the documents reveal that:

•The U.S., Israel and Arab countries are alarmed about Iran's nuclear capabilities. The Times reported that cables reveal the U.S. "believes that Iran has obtained advanced missiles from North Korea."

•U.S. diplomats have tried to coerce other countries to take some of the terrorism suspects being housed at Guantanamo Bay. Slovenia, for example, was "told to take a prisoner if it wanted to meet with President Obama," the Times reported.

•The United States has tried unsuccessfully for years to remove highly enriched uranium from Pakistan to prevent it from getting into terrorists' hands, the Times reported.

•Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi have an unusually close relationship that includes "lavish gifts" and a "shadowy" go-between, the Guardian and Times reported.

•Afghanistan's vice president was found to be carrying $52 million in cash last year on a trip to the United Arab Emirates, confirming suspicions about corruption in the Afghan government. The Times reported that Ahmed Zia Massoud, who denies taking money out of his country, was allowed to keep the cash.

On Sunday, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the military has acted to better secure classified documents. In June, Army Spc. Bradley Manning was arrested for allegedly leaking classified papers to WikiLeaks.

Members of Congress also condemned the leaks.

Rep. Pete King, R-N.Y., said the government should prosecute WikiLeaks' Australian founder, Julian Assange, under the Espionage Act. "He pursues a malicious agenda, for which he remains totally immune to the consequences," King wrote to Attorney General Eric Holder on Sunday.

okie wrote:

I did hear John Bolton talk a bit about the Korean situation on a talk show yesterday... and he rightly pointed out that the North Korean threat has to be dealt with firmly...

What a bunch of crap that is! "Firmly?" What does that mean? Nuke them? Target their strategic facilities? Take out the leadership? Sanction them into starvation?

A2K burnout or news burnout. I hear what you are saying, but I am not sure you can ever declare a timeout like you can in basketball.

The whole gripe with US Chambers is that we don't know how much they got from foreign sources because they refused to disclose them; which apparently is legal as long as they have a

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"reasonable accounting method" to keep foreign money separate and have enough money from U.S. sources to cover the donations.

They have responded by saying that they don't use foreign money for ads but they won't disclose their accounting method.

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I don't know, cyclops, as I am not given briefings on the military situation there. I would not advocate a specific action without full information. I think in general, we need to assist or encourage the South Koreans to answer in kind, only more firmly. That does not mean dropping an A bomb after they set off a fire cracker, but it might mean giving them an M-80 or Cherry Bomb. If you understand allegories, you should get the drift.

An Allegory is a figurative mode of representation conveying meaning other than the literal. You probably meant 'Analogy.'

But, are we to take it that you think an armed response would be appropriate? How do you keep Seoul from being destroyed in any response that the NK's take from there? The strategic location of the city is ridiculously bad, for you to be advocating open hostilities.

I don't think you've put much thought into this.
Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

An Allegory is a figurative mode of representation conveying meaning other than the literal. You probably meant 'Analogy.'

But, are we to take it that you think an armed response would be appropriate? How do you keep Seoul from being destroyed in any response that the NK's take from there? The strategic location of the city is ridiculously bad, for you to be advocating open hostilities.

I don't think you've put much thought into this.
Cycloptichorn

I totally admit I have not followed this story closely. I do however believe that you cannot allow a bully or criminal to begin thinking you are easy prey, because it will only encourage them to continue their violations. In general, I think an armed response is usually appropriate to answer an armed act of violence.

If something is not worth dying for, it is also not worth living for.

okie wrote:

If something is not worth dying for, it is also not worth living for.

A sense of moral righteousness is a thin cloak in a cold grave, Okie. I do like how willing you are to put the lives of millions on the line, just so you can stand up for your principles, or some bullshit like that. My guess is that if it was your ass or your family on the line, you wouldn't be so cavalier.Cycloptichorn

Do us a favor: a little research. Actually read up on the situation re: the Korean peninsula, and you'll see just how hard it would be to prevent the Norks from killing hundreds of thousands (if not millions) using artillery and other weapons. Then ask yourself if you think escalation is such a great idea.

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Do us a favor: a little research. Actually read up on the situation re: the Korean peninsula, and you'll see just how hard it would be to prevent the Norks from killing hundreds of thousands (if not millions) using artillery and other weapons. Then ask yourself if you think escalation is such a great idea.

Why have you've only considered what the North could do, Cy?