Obama '08?

@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Because you are familiar with the site's content or you find the photo arousing?

says the guy who posted it. Laughing

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Because you are familiar with the site's content or you find the photo arousing?

blueveinedthrobber is a ring pirate.

a red ring. the color of your old lady's lipstick.

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Ah, a quote from throbber keeps the blues away.

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@plainoldme,

plainoldme wrote:

To be a liberal, one must be ... committed to Zero Population Growth.

Could you explain that, POM? Thank you.

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@plainoldme,

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To be a liberal, one must practice self-denial for the greater good

This is another one that you need to clarify.
Self-denial of what sort?

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@realjohnboy,

Simple. The world is over-populated by humans. Either you are part of the solution, or part of the problem. To be a liberal means that you try to be part of the solution.

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@plainoldme,

plainoldme wrote:

Simple. The world is over-populated by humans. Either you are part of the solution, or part of the problem. To be a liberal means that you try to be part of the solution.

Then I presume you are in favor of receiving less from the government, so that government can reduce its overspending budget?

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@okie,

okie, Where or when did you learn logic?

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@okie,

okie wrote:

plainoldme wrote:

Simple. The world is over-populated by humans. Either you are part of the solution, or part of the problem. To be a liberal means that you try to be part of the solution.

Then I presume you are in favor of receiving less from the government, so that government can reduce its overspending budget?

Are you part of the solution or part of the problem, pom? Obama's 2010 budget is $3.55 trillion, which means each man, woman, and child needs to be paying almost $12,000 taxes each into the federal government just to pay for the federal budget. It just so happens that my wife and I pay virtually that amount into the government every year, counting social security. Are you doing that, pom? Thanks to the higher income people that are paying far more than their fair share, or our deficit would be far worse, because close to half the population is not paying any income tax at all. So the ones not paying any tax are part of the problem, not part of the solution, as regards our budget deficit.

pom, are you part of the solution or part of the problem? Are you paying to the government about $12,000 for each of your household?

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@cicerone imposter,

We all know okie and logic have not been properly introduced to each other.

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@plainoldme,

How do you figure the world is overpopulated?

Asa of july 2010, the world population estimate was 6,768,181,146

Now if you do the math, and give every person on earth 6 square feet of land, you could put the entire population of the planet in an area smaller then the state of NY.
There is NOT an overpopulation problem on this planet.
And if you truly think there is, why did you contribute to the problem by having children of your own?

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@mysteryman,

mm, It's not only the land mass that must be considered; it's about feeding the total population, and other limited resources like fresh water.

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@cicerone imposter,

I understand that, but that still doesnt mean the planet is overpopulated.

But lets assume for a minute that it is, exactly how do you plan to reduce the population?

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@realjohnboy,

realjohnboy wrote:

plainoldme wrote:

To be a liberal, one must be ... committed to Zero Population Growth.

Could you explain that, POM? Thank you.

The population of Japan is shrinking, I don't think it's because they are liberal.

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@failures art,

It could be because they are realists, which is what liberals very often are. In fact, I would say that realism is the bedrock of liberalism.

BTW, get a load of this: http://naturalnews.tv/v.asp?v=9209B7B02D4A5A8EA8B71038D6C18D26

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@plainoldme,

POM - Before you start presenting theories, you should read into Japan's Baby Bust and do some comparisons to their politics.

What I was trying to get at is that I think your "zero population growth" characteristic of liberals is very poorly worded. Instead, I think that on matters of population control, a better way to describe liberal thought is that (1) public services and resources should be adjusted to be adequate for whatever the population is, (2) people should have the right to family planning measures.

"Zero population growth" is not the same. I'm not going to try and control how many people exist. Rather, I'd like to government to make sure if their is 16 people, that we have 16 spoons.

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@plainoldme,

I read the bill, and I saw nothing that makes local farms illegal, or that makes it illegal to store seed.
I think the people in the video you linked are just fear-mongering.

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@failures art,

There must be a branch on the liberal/democrat side similar to the tea parties on the republican side. I hope they never gain in power like the tea parties have in the republican party.

The guy who took hostages at the discovery channel was one such example, he believed in zero population growth too.

The Discovery Channel hostage taker is James Jay Lee,

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@revelette,

That guy is nuts, but the Tea Party is a populist movement. Their extremity is not in the policies they support, but the politics they use. It's easy to just say that they are far far right, but the truth is that they aren't displaying anything new that the old GOP wasn't already saying. Extreme left populist groups do exist, they just aren't getting corporate sponsorships and given center stage on media outlets to legitimize their position.

We are both glad about this.

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@plainoldme,

plainoldme wrote:

We all know okie and logic have not been properly introduced to each other.

Logic and simple math says that a 3.55 trillion budget requires that every man, woman, and child needs to pay the government about $12,000 per year in taxes just to support the spending. I ask a logical question, pom, and anyone else here, are you paying in your fair share every year? Are you part of the problem, or part of the solution? pom already asked that question, and I think it was a good one as regards our federal budget being paid for by us, the citizens out here.

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