parados
 
  1  
Sun 19 Sep, 2010 08:38 pm
@okie,
You really should start listening to yourself okie if you want to be honest, decent and principled.

okie wrote:
Now, I asked you some simple questions .... Do you have the honesty and courage to answer them? Here they are again, so you have no excuse for not answering:


So here are my questions again okie. Please take your own advice and answer them

1. What strong emotion does Obama feel toward the US that isn't hate or love?

2. If Marxists take over, install a dictator and turn the US into a socialist country will the US be destroyed?





If you can't live up to your own standards okie, is there really any hope for you?
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parados
 
  1  
Sun 19 Sep, 2010 08:39 pm
@okie,
Quote:
Most honest people that are proud of their beliefs and actually have some, would jump at the chance to do it.

Sure, and you must be avoiding my questions why? Because you are proud of your beliefs? Or perhaps you aren't so proud of them?

What emotion do you believe Obama has toward the US that is not hate or love but is still a strong emotion?


Quote:
Most honest people that are proud of their beliefs and actually have some, would jump at the chance to do it.
Most honest people would okie but you have been not jumping at the chance. That probably means you are dishonest, doesn' it?
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 19 Sep, 2010 08:42 pm
@parados,
We all know okie is a hypocrite; he accuses others of what he does on a regular basis, and claims for others that he is guilty of. There is absolutely no hope of redemption.
parados
 
  1  
Sun 19 Sep, 2010 08:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Okie isn't a hypocrite.

He is spineless, dishonest, with no decency. Those are the words okie uses to describe people that act like he is. So, shouldn't we judge okie with his own words?
okie
 
  0  
Sun 19 Sep, 2010 08:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
You too, ci, I would welcome you explain in detail your political philosophy. I think it would help more understanding between us. If you believe yourself to have wisdom and good principles, you should jump at the chance. I give you the same challenge I gave parados.
parados
 
  0  
Sun 19 Sep, 2010 08:48 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:
if you have an ounce of courage, try to answer my questions.

Why won't you listen to yourself okie and take your own advice? Are you really that unprincipled?

What strong emotion does Obama have toward the US that isn't hate?
If Marxists take over, install a dictator and turn the US into a socialist country will the US be destroyed?

As for my questions
okie wrote:
they are simple and straightforward, and should be easy to answer for anyone that is honest and is proud of his or her beliefs, and thinks they have good reasons for their beliefs.

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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Sun 19 Sep, 2010 08:49 pm
@okie,
If you been reading my posts, you would know what my "political philosophy" is, but you're just too ignorant to remember anything we post. You expect us to be at your beck and call to rehash everything we said, but you are not only an unreasonable punk, you are the most stupid poster on a2k.

CLUE: I'm an Independent.
okie
 
  -1  
Sun 19 Sep, 2010 08:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I have often wondered, what do independents believe? As an independent, what do you believe? Small government, big government, more programs, etc. etc. ? How about some detail? This is not an entrapment question. I am seriously interested if you have any foundational over-riding principles that you believe government should be based upon? Do you believe communism is basically evil, or do you believe it has positive elements that should be adopted into our free market capitalistic system, as cyclops apparently does?
parados
 
  2  
Sun 19 Sep, 2010 08:57 pm
@okie,
I see that okie thinks okie is spineless and has no courage.
okie
 
  0  
Sun 19 Sep, 2010 09:09 pm
@parados,
I have already explained my beliefs in some detail here, but I will do it again if others will also do it.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Sun 19 Sep, 2010 09:28 pm
@okie,
okie, Independents are as varied as the democrats and republicans. There is no one size fits all in any party politics.
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parados
 
  2  
Mon 20 Sep, 2010 06:51 am
@okie,
No, you have not explained your beliefs about my questions.


What strong emotion can Obama have about the US that isn't love or hate?
My answer is NONE. So if he doesn't love the country but still has a strong emotion than he must hate it.
Now tell us what you believe.


If Marxists take over, install a dictator and turn the US into a socialist country will the US be destroyed?
My answer is yes. Installing a dictator would destroy the US as we know it and force the elimination of the US Constitution.
Now tell us what you believe.

OK okie. I have explained my beliefs in response to my 2 questions. Now it is your turn.
djjd62
 
  2  
Mon 20 Sep, 2010 07:14 am
obama is part of the illuminati, maaaaaaaaaan

he's part of the shadow government, maaaaaaaan, bohemian grove and all that stuff, maaaaaan, bow down before alex jones, he'll set you straight, he'll clue you in


and you'd better get a tinfoil hat just to be safe


Twisted Evil Rolling Eyes Drunk
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ican711nm
 
  -4  
Mon 20 Sep, 2010 10:36 am
WE MUST IMPEACH & REMOVE PRESIDENTS WHO DO NOT COMPLY WITH THEIR OATH OR AFFIRMATION TO PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION

PRESIDENT BARACH OBAMA HAS UNLAWFULLY:
Quote:

http://www.altavista.com/web/results?fr=altavista&itag=ody&q=REASONS+FOR+IMPEACHING+BARACK+OBAMA+&kgs=0&kls=0
http://www.amorian.org/2009/09/06/the-big-list-of-reasons-to-impeach-barack-obama/

(1) taken private property from those persons and from those organizations who have lawfully earned it, and given it to those persons and organizations who have not lawfully earned it.

(2) exercised the authority of his office to take private property for public use in violation of the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution, which guarantees to the People that “private property shall not be taken for public use without just compensation,” and without “due process of law.”

(3) interfered with the management of private companies for the purpose of achieving government control of them, in violation of the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.

(4) interfered with the economic rights of the people by imposing unreasonable impairments in the fulfillment of their intended contractual obligations, and their ability to enter into such contracts.

(5) attempted to change our fundamental economic system from one governed by the rule of law to one governed by presidential dictate.

(6) signed an unconstitutional health care bill that is not authorized by any power of Congress enumerated in the Constitution, not even by a very expansive reading of the power to regulate commerce among the several states.

(7) signed an unconstitutional health care bill that violates the Tenth Amendment by requiring state governments to force their citizens to purchase medical insurance they do not want to purchase.

(8) signed an unconstitutional health care bill that violates the Ninth Amendment by forcing state governments to force their citizens to be denied rights that are retained by the people.

(9) used public money to purchase private companies.

(10) given our public money to a foreign state to finance their state-run oil company while refusing to allow us to develop our own oil resources.

(11) violated the balance of powers among the Congress, the Judiciary, and the Presidency by appointing, without congressional approval, so called Czars with far reaching powers who are accountable to no one but himself.

(12) funded his election campaign with foreign contributions.

(13) permitted the justice department to implement a policy to not prosecute any civil rights or voting rights violations if perpetrated by a black or blacks against a white or whites.


FROM THE CONSTITUTION OF THE USA
Quote:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

Article II. Section 1. The President shall, …
Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Article II. Section 4. The President … shall be removed from office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Article I. Section 8.
The Congress shall have power

To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;

To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;

To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;

To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;

To provide and maintain a navy;

To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;

To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And

To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.


THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT POSSESS ANY POWERS NOT EXPLICITLY GRANTED IT BY THE CONSTITUTION
Quote:

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.


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Advocate
 
  2  
Mon 20 Sep, 2010 01:22 pm
Ican's nickname should be "Spam."
georgeob1
 
  0  
Mon 20 Sep, 2010 01:26 pm
@Advocate,
And yours should be, WEFT.
djjd62
 
  2  
Mon 20 Sep, 2010 01:31 pm
@Advocate,
or xerox, he copies and repeats so much
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ican711nm
 
  -2  
Mon 20 Sep, 2010 02:37 pm
Repeated FALSITY warrants repeated TRUTH!
parados
 
  1  
Mon 20 Sep, 2010 02:39 pm
@ican711nm,
Oh?

Does this mean the rest of us should be repeating the truth as often as you repeat your falsehoods? I didn't realize there were rules to your games.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 20 Sep, 2010 02:47 pm
@okie,
okie, When will you learn that all of us as individuals arrive at subjective "wisdom and good principles" that are a combination of what can be termed as right wing and left wing. I have stated my political philosophy often on these boards, but you just do not have the capacity to remember anything. +

Your challenges are meaningless; our answers have never been remembered by you.
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