ican711nm
 
  1  
Wed 25 Aug, 2010 07:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Do you know why most of my posts are not challenged as your's are?

There's a clue there if you even understand what I'm talking about.

It's obvious what you are talking about!

Most of those posting here reject conservative principles and accept leftist principles. Furthermore, most of the leftists here are inclined to malign those they disagree with rather than rationally debate them.

Most of your posts appear to us conservatives as nothing more than vacuous opinions adopted without reason as self-evident truths. They possess so little substance as to not be worthy of discussion.
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Wed 25 Aug, 2010 07:39 pm
@ican711nm,
It has absolutely nothing to do with conservative principles; it has everything to do with a) knowing what you are talking about based on common sense and logic, b) knowing your topic well enough to talk intelligently about it, and c) providing evidence for what are readily available as facts of history and current events. You can't make **** up as you believe things; it must be supported by some consensus by people considered reliable and credible in their opinions. They include "some" credible media articles, and some professors who teaches those subjects.

You must also understand that some media are rarely, if ever, credible, and most reside on FOX News.
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ican711nm
 
  -2  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 11:09 am
Quote:
Communist "Asset"(Or just a Racist)?
Posted by Bryon Harrelson on August 23, 2010 at 10:59pm in Rush Limbaugh Fans on Facebook
Is Obama’s New Ambassador a Communist “Asset” (Or Just a Racist)?

Before setting off on his sixth vacation of the year in elite Martha’s Vineyard, Barack Obama made four recess appointments. Credible sources report the FBI once listed one of them as a Communist “asset.”

Obama nominated Maria (or “Mari”) del Carmen Aponte as ambassador to El Salvador last December, but it was not her first nomination. In 1998, Bill Clinton nominated her ambassador to the Dominican Republic. When Senate Republicans began probing her ties to Cuban intelligence, she withdrew, allegedly for “personal reasons.”

Aponte lived with Roberto Tamayo, whom Clinton administration officials described as an agent of the Cuban intelligence agency Dirección General de Inteligencia (DGI). In 1993, a Cuban defector named Florentino Aspillaga said Tamayo tried to recruit Aponte on behalf of the Castro regime. Aponte acknowledges that FBI officials found “minor inconsistencies” in her story. When asked, she refused to take a polygraph.

Sen. Jim DeMint, R-SC, flagged her nomination in March citing “serious concerns” with her history and the fact that “we have not received all of the information we have requested.” He and other Senate Republicans asked to see her FBI file.

Instead, Obama put her in the seat in a way that bypassed the Senate’s advice and consent function. He made use of a recess appointment, just as he did in appointing Donald Berwick, the proponent of rationed care Obama tapped to run Medicare and Medicaid. Then Obama made the announcement on a news dump, in hopes the story would die over the weekend.

Defenders of Aponte insist she was “cleared” by the FBI, citing an article in the Miami Herald from 1999. However, the article does not cite the FBI; it quotes 'an administration official who offered no specifics'. The article that Media Matters uses to vindicate Aponte concludes, “Whether or not there was ever a Cuban attempt to recruit Aponte remains unclear.”

The unclear all-clear was sounded by the Herald‘s source, Bob Nash, who went on to serve as vice chairman of ShoreBank before becoming Hillary Clinton’s deputy campaign manager in 2007. (Chicago journalist Lynn Sweet noted, “The Clintons, Nash and ShoreBank…have a long, interconnected history.” ShoreBank will soon reopen as the Urban Partnership Bank.)

The Clinton administration was not particularly conscientious about national security or its officials’ private lives. The GOP could be forgiven for wanting more confirmation than the word of a ShoreBank exec.

Whether Aponte was ever an “asset” of DGI, she does not attempt to deny her role in promoting Open Borders, and Amnesty.

Aponte has been on the board of directors of the National Council of La Raza and the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund (PRLDEF). The latter organization, which is now known as LatinoJustice PRLDEF, was long headed by Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor. Sotomayor signed a 1981 memo – which she failed to disclose to the Senate – declaring “capital punishment is associated with evident racism in our society.’’ In the 1980s, PRLDEF issued a press release calling Puerto Rican FALN terrorists “fighters for freedom and justice, for liberation.” PRLDEF filed suits forcing teachers in Ann Arbor, Michigan, to learn “Black English,” and accused the New York Police Department of racism because too few minorities passed its promotions exam.

The National Council of La Raza (“the Race”) is infamous for its support of Open Borders, drivers licenses for illegals, in-state tuition for non-citizens, and its undying hostility to border enforcement. Obama’s Director of Intergovernmental Affairs, Cecilia Munoz, was vice president of La Raza and is the administration’s top cheerleader for amnesty — er, sorry, “comprehensive immigration reform.”

Aponte’s extensive funding of the Democratic Party, including the president, raises questions about whether the ambassadorship was a payback. She has donated $49,910 exclusively to Democrats, including Ted Kennedy, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Hilda Solis, and $2,300 to Barack Obama in 2008.

So, the question remains: Is she a Commie, a crony, or an Hispanic racist? Is the president who appointed her a radical, a rewarder, or a race-iter?
[ /quote]
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 11:27 am
@ican711nm,
Well, can you beat that? Reagan started talks with China.
okie
 
  1  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 04:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I thought it was Nixon, the man that everybody loves to hate. But Nixon was no communist, ci, just in case you are wondering?
okie
 
  1  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 04:50 pm
@ican711nm,
Another commie appointee? How many now is that for Obama?
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JTT
 
  1  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 05:09 pm
@okie,
Quote:
I thought it was Nixon, the man that everybody loves to hate. But Nixon was no communist, ci, just in case you are wondering?


No, Nixon was not a communist.

He was one of those sneaky, conniving, underhanded people who sought to ruin people's lives with lies, innuendo, false stories, media hype, anything he could muster to do evil. And still, he was prime conservative material for a Republican presidency.

Surprise surprise.
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JTT
 
  1  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 05:20 pm
@ican711nm,
Quote:
The author explains that the Founding Fathers enshrined the impeachment clause into the United States Constitution because they feared that a president intent on subverting the very principles upon which the American experiment was built would someday rise to power.


From this we must conclude that those "very principles upon which the American experiment was built" included mass murder, illegal invasions of sovereign countries, numerous and sundry war crimes, rape and torture, terrorism till hell won't have it because every administration has been responsible for at least some of the aforementioned and not a president has ever been impeached, let alone tried in a court of law.

The impeachment clause, despite puffy sounding statements after Watergate about how "the Constitution works", is as useless as the 14th amendment was to the Blacks.

No document, however noble in thought, can stand up to the deleterious effects of the fast and loose manner the rule of law gets in the USA.
georgeob1
 
  3  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 05:42 pm
@JTT,
When are you leaving?
JTT
 
  0  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 05:50 pm
@georgeob1,
As it's all too much for your little brain, gob1, I suggest ignore. Perfectly fitting for someone like you.
spendius
 
  0  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 05:53 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
From this we must conclude that those "very principles upon which the American experiment was built" included mass murder, illegal invasions of sovereign countries, numerous and sundry war crimes, rape and torture, terrorism till hell won't have it because every administration has been responsible for at least some of the aforementioned and not a president has ever been impeached, let alone tried in a court of law.


Is that news to you JT?
hawkeye10
 
  2  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 05:54 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
As it's all too much for your little brain, gob1, I suggest ignore. Perfectly fitting for someone like you.
You have been quite the dick lately....are you trying to take over Set's job?
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 06:03 pm
@okie,
It's just that your memory of history is non-existent in the facts.
okie
 
  -1  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 07:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Hey imposter, here is a short history refresher course for you in regard to presidents and China. It was Nixon as I told you in a previous post. I thought I was right, and this link of course proves it. I still remember when it happened. I have always thought it was common knowledge and that this was one of Nixon's most noteable actions as president, besides ending the Vietnam War. So if my memory is non-existent as you claim, how come mine is more accurate than yours?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Nixon_visit_to_China

"U.S. President Richard Nixon's 1972 visit to the People's Republic of China was an important step in formally normalizing relations between the United States and the People's Republic of China. It marked the first time a U.S. president had visited the PRC, who at that time considered the U.S. one of its staunchest foes. The visit has become a metaphor for an unexpected or uncharacteristic action by a politician."
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 07:34 pm
@okie,
We know about Nixon opening relations with China, but you were challenging socialist Obama's appointment of a communist. Reagan (and Nixon) visited a communist country, and actually negotiated with the Chinese premier. Which is worse?

If you want to discuss corrupt appointees, let's talk about GW Bush's gang of criminals who all conspired by lies to start a war in Iraq.
JTT
 
  1  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 08:01 pm
@spendius,
Not news, Spendi, a reminder.
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okie
 
  0  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 08:02 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I think we need to talk to and deal with communist countries, and sometimes that is the road to changing their attitudes and their people crying out for freedom. However, appointing commies to populate our own government is far far different.

By the way, lying and making up accusations of criminality by Bush proves nothing, except that you make things up and it erodes any credibility that you might have had otherwise, ci. You are free to hate people that you disagree with, but unless you have evidence, knock off the lying about them.

Not only has Obama appointed several people with Marxist sympathies, but what is worse than a guy overseeing the IRS that didn't even pay all of his taxes due? What is worse than that? Even Democrats have called for Geithner to be fired.
plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 08:13 pm

I am sick of the misuse of the word, "lying."
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JTT
 
  0  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 08:19 pm
@okie,
Evidence of Bush and the gang's criminality abounds, Okie. He is in the running with Reagan to see whose administration most often broke the law.

Quote:
The recent release of Jane Mayer's book The Dark Side revealed that a secret report by the International Committee of the Red Cross determined "categorically" that the CIA used torture, as defined by American and international law, in questioning al-Qaida suspect Abu Zubaydah. The question of criminal liability for Bush-administration officials has since been in the news. It's also getting play because retired Gen. Antonio Taguba, lead Army investigator of the prison abuses at Abu Ghraib, wrote in a recent report, "There is no longer any doubt as to whether the current administration has committed war crimes." (Update: And today, the ACLU released three new memos from the Department of Justice and the CIA, which for the first time show DoJ explicitly authorizing "enhanced" interrogation tactics for use on specific detainees. One of the memos states, in this context, that "interrogation techniques, including the waterboard, do not violate the Torture Statute.")


Here's the link to this article.

http://www.slate.com/id/2195533

And the link to the new thread discussing, what else, Bush2's criminal administration.

http://able2know.org/topic/160581-1

I know that you will read it all with an open mind and judge it all fairly.
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cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Thu 26 Aug, 2010 09:16 pm
@okie,
okie, You do have a very short memory; do you not remember GW Bush's policies foreign? Is your head up your ass all the time?
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