Obama '08?

@ican711nm,

Another excerpt from "The 5000 Year Leap ..." page 9:

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Furthermore, Communism and Fascism turned out to be different names for approximately the same thing--the police state. They are not opposite extremes but, for all practical purposes, are virtually the same.

And, there was no practical difference between Nazism, Communism and Fascism! And their current versions are all police states!

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@realjohnboy,

I think that the program you describe is a partial response to the growing realization that, for most American wage earners, wages have been flat for nearly a generation.

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@plainoldme,

Yes POM, but 4% growth for 25 years might easily render us all insane.

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@okie,

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pom, I do not recall your admission of being 3/4 toward Extreme Left

I do have a very good memory. In fact, my kids tease me about cursing them with a good memory that traveled down the gene pool to them. So, I will hold back on being angry with you because traits are not evenly distributed among the human population.

However, you made an elaborate show of your disagreement with me for at least two weeks. If you can not remember what you write about, perhaps, you should begin maintaining an index.

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I do not think I would disagree with that

You totally misunderstood it. That you misunderstood a statement is far from novel.

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so, please quote what you call my "misinterpretation" and "angry responses" that I posted about folks that deny they are left of center.

Hell, no. I already found the original statement of mine that you misunderstood. I am not your servant. I have a life and many things to do. At the present moment, I am eating the homemade tomato soup that I made for dinner, after coming home from my beekeeping class. When I finish the soup, I will bake a blueberry pie and run the vacuum cleaner, then iron my clothes for tomorrow. I work 9 hrs tomorrow. Tuesday, I drive 50 miles to usher at a theatre so I can see some live Shakespeare. Wednesday, I work for six hours, then go a faculty meeting. Sorry, I just do not have time to take care of your snits.

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Either prove it or apologize, one or the other, that would be totally reasonable. That is a challenge, yet another one for you.

You inferior creature. Demand an apology???!!! Alright, I am sorry that you are a poor reader with a poor memory.

Now, you apologize for ordering me around. I bet if I were in the same room with you, you would attempt to blacken my eye. You show yourself a bully at least twice a week.

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@okie,

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As ican has pointed out and I agree, I think most conservatives proudly state that they are conservative and have little hesitance to try to define what conservatism is and why they are conservative, while the Left is not nearly so anxious to do the same about their chosen philosophy.

Most conservatives do state who and what they are because the men are bullies and the women are all pushy c-words, like sarah palin and ann coulter. People on the left tend to know that religion and politics are not subjects for discussion with strangers and are much more polite. Conservatives ram their beliefs down people's throats. Just look into your mirror.

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@plainoldme,

plainoldme wrote:

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Either prove it or apologize, one or the other, that would be totally reasonable. That is a challenge, yet another one for you.

You inferior creature. Demand an apology???!!! Alright, I am sorry that you are a poor reader with a poor memory.

Now, you apologize for ordering me around. I bet if I were in the same room with you, you would attempt to blacken my eye. You show yourself a bully at least twice a week.

I it is totally reasonable for me to expect you to provide evidence if you are going to accuse someone of something. If you cannot provide evidence, an apology would in fact be the honorable thing to do.

Now, you call me an inferior creature and also for ordering you around, neither of which have any substance of reality. Also, you say I would blacken your eye, which is another slanderous statement. Such a statement is not only slanderous in nature when you have no evidence at all for its validity, plus it is nonsensical and insulting. I am no bully, and just because I express my opinions, it is not anything close to identifying me as a bully. If you cannot handle disagreement, pom, I suggest you are not suited for an online debate forum, you should give it up.

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@plainoldme,

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People on the left tend to know that religion and politics are not subjects for discussion with strangers and are much more polite.

Yet you continue to discuss both of them and are insulting and hostile with most anyone that disagrees with you.

So using your own definition, you are not actually a member of the left, but you are a conservative.

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@mysteryman,

I never insult first, a statement that I have made again and again.

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@plainoldme,

Show all of us then where Okie called you an "inferior creature".
Show where I challenged you reading comprehension or grasp of the english language, BEFORE you did.

If we have insulted you first, you should be able to show it quite easily.

But I notice that you didnt deny being a conservative, since you continue to discuss religion and politics, something you claimed liberals dont so.

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@mysteryman,

I'm a liberal and I discuss religion and politics constantly.

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@dyslexia,

Then you cant be a liberal.
After all, according to POM liberals will not discuss those issues.

And besides, your a poopity head anyway.

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@dyslexia,

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I'm a liberal and I discuss religion and politics constantly.

But you do not discuss Vietnam, even though you are a vet?

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@okie,

no of course no, I'm not a vet, I'm a fraud, you've already pointed that out and besides, you have me on ignore.

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@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

Then you cant be a liberal.
After all, according to POM liberals will not discuss those issues.

And besides, your a poopity head anyway.

yes, poopity head I will not deny.

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@dyslexia,

I admit to clicking on to your ignored posts occasionally, and recently when you accused me of sitting around in officers clubs or visiting hooches in Saigon or some such thing instead of what I said I did there, essentially calling me a fraud, I did call you a fraud for saying what you did, and then I challenged you to either provide evidence or provide an apology, to which I have seen nothing out of you so far. I also invited you to tell us what you did there, such as where you were and what you did, and so far you have offered nothing.

So I remain curious, dys, are you going to stand up and be counted and tell us something about your vet experience as apparently claimed, or are you going to continue to hide behind your cute comments? Which is it going to be? pom defended you by saying you were funny and that I had no sense of humor, to which I replied that making stuff up about other people is not particularly funny to me, especially when it concerns military service.

I took you off of my ignore list for now so that I will be sure not to miss what I hope you will post.

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@okie,

well Okie I'm afraid you can't expect much of anything from me. You might as well just put me back on ignore.

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@dyslexia,

I am disappointed. I guess I will also confess that I believe that if you are authentic, you would have something to offer.

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@okie,

I fail to understand Okie, how you could be disappointed, I am an admitted extreme liberal ergo socialist/communists/fascist/america hater/bigot/racist and reader of books. I have lots of negative issues with Obama and readily discuss them with people like Roger and Georgeob mainly because they are conservatives who are knowledgeable while you, Ican and (foxfyre when she was here) are nothing more than ditto-heads apparently incapable of sustained rational thought, who shun any and all thoughts/ideas inconsistent with your pre-ordained view of the universe. an analogy, if you will, right wing republicans are like the catholic shurch in that you and the catholics do have/own a theology whereas democrats (I'm no democrat) are more like protestants with every single one having their own inconsistent theology. democrats are as diverse as baptists/mormons/lutherns while republicans (those on the right) are as united as the catholics with only minor divergence among them. I wait the white puff of smoke signaling the new republican pope be it Palin/Limbaugh/Beck whomever. In the meantime Obama is essentially at war not so much with the republicans but with his fellow (protestant) democrats. Hitler is dead and gone Okie and so is WW II. It's time to work on solving contemporary problems.

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@dyslexia,

Hey, dys, so do I, but with people who I am already friends. I do it here with people who are often enemies or assholes, but, this is a forum and the questions are here to be answered.

MM likes to twist things. There was a cartoon that was shown on Detroit television on a regular basis when I was a child. I asked whether anyone else ever saw this short film on a2k but no one seeing that question had. The cartoon was about a parrot that read Mein Kampf and then set about turning the other pets in the household against each other. MM uses a similar technique here, making tangental responses to statements posted, twisting what the original writer had to say.

When I taught SPED at a high school, I had a student who did that. Very manipulative. She had her shrink wrapped around her finger. When the shrink called me after the girl had been suspended from school, I clued her in on how the teachers were of the opinion that the girl was a manipulator and a liar. The shrink said, "But, she is so cute?" I asked whether she the shrink considered the child physically cute or if she had an appealing personality. The shrink said both. I told her that the child was homely and that she had been taken in by her red hair. I then listed all the poisonous incidents this child created.

I am not saying that the child or MM is a fascist but that manipulators abound.

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@okie,

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..So I remain curious, dys, are you going to stand up and be counted and tell us something about your vet experience as apparently claimed,...

The man is legit and under no obligation to post his military record here. Please take my word for it, Okie, and change tack. Thanks.

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