parados
 
  1  
Wed 21 Jul, 2010 03:02 pm
@realjohnboy,
You mean Fox News didn't check it's source?

When is Hannity going to be forced to resign for using faked video?
realjohnboy
 
  1  
Wed 21 Jul, 2010 03:04 pm
@parados,
There is plenty of egg to go on a lot of faces.
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ican711nm
 
  0  
Wed 21 Jul, 2010 03:11 pm
@xris,
iris wrote:
After a fall cometh the reckoning..It was inevitable whoever took over the admin. I think it could have been a lot worse.

I think it will be a lot worse, based on Obama's current methods, if Obama continues his current methods of recovering from Bush's fall.
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ican711nm
 
  0  
Wed 21 Jul, 2010 03:48 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Who passed the bills which lead to these tax hikes? Which Congress did it, who was in the majority, and who signed the bill?

I assume, without bothering to look it up, that the Republicans passed the tax bill that expires this year. I know for certain that the Democrats have not yet chosen to extend that tax bill. So the Democrats have so far been responsible for permitting the termination of that tax bill in 2010. All they have to do to rectify their error is vote to rescind the bill's current termination date and either make the bill permanent or at least extend it.

Betcha you already knew your claim was a popular O-D (i.e., Obama-Democrats) fairy tale.
mysteryman
 
  1  
Wed 21 Jul, 2010 03:53 pm
@parados,
And apparently the WH didnt check the source either.
When is someone in the USDA going to be forced to resign for using faked video also?

BTW, from what I understand, the video wasnt faked, it was just severely edited.
And yes, that was dishonest on the part of whoever used it, be it Fox News, Sean Hannity, or the WH.,
JTT
 
  1  
Wed 21 Jul, 2010 04:29 pm
@mysteryman,
Stop with the phony posturing pretending that you're somehow an honest person, MM, trying to get your government to do the right thing.
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mysteryman
 
  2  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 04:06 am
This is interesting...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/21/opinion/21tutu.html?_r=2&ref=opinion

Quote:
HAVING met President Obama, I’m confident that he’s a man of conscience who shares my commitment to bringing hope and care to the world’s poor. But I am saddened by his decision to spend less than he promised to treat AIDS patients in Africa.

George W. Bush made an impressive commitment to the international fight against AIDS when he formed the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief program. Since 2004, Pepfar has spent $19 billion to help distribute anti-viral treatments to about 2.5 million Africans infected with H.I.V


So, here is another campaign promise broken by Obama, except this one will cause people to die.
Unless you want to say that Desmond Tutu has no idea what he is talking about.


xris
 
  1  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 05:09 am
@mysteryman,
So here is another example of your constant need to repeat detrimental propaganda. You and this article fail to mention that the Obama's admin. have diverted their funding to prevention rather than cure and emphasizing more on other major causes of deaths in Africa more deadly than aids..The Pharmaceutical industry could and should do more than make billions out of the aids epidemic in Africa..Do you mention that? O no it does not fit your desire to slander and misrepresent the Obama admin. Or are you so easily convinced by the American anti Obama press, you tell me?
Advocate
 
  1  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 08:15 am
@mysteryman,
The tape was doctored by conservative Andrew Breitbart, who is well known for his so-called "smashmouth" journalism. The tape was not just edited, but was accompanied by false information saying that the woman had a high position with the Obama administration when she made the sickening statement. Further, it is clear that Fox knew all this when it played the tape. Therefore, Breitbart and Fox basically defrauded the administration and everyone else with the doctored tape. It is interesting that no one on the right will admit this, much less apologize.
plainoldme
 
  0  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 09:09 am
@Advocate,
Here is a link to a piece by Jonathan Chait exposing the cowardice of Andrew Breitbart:

http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-chait/76451/andrew-breitbart-pseudojournalist-method?utm_source=TNR+Daily&utm_campaign=febe16da95-TNR_Daily_072210&utm_medium=email

While the right, in its all out war against the left in which it adopts the tactics of Leo Strauss, makes much of their perceived "left-wing slant" to real journalism, they feel their own right-wing out-right lies are fine. when they are caught, they do what people have done since the Middle Ages: claim the information came to them from another source.

Ms. Sherrod needs to hire a good libel lawyer.
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 09:34 am
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:
Who passed the bills which lead to these tax hikes? Which Congress did it, who was in the majority, and who signed the bill?

I assume, without bothering to look it up, that the Republicans passed the tax bill that expires this year. I know for certain that the Democrats have not yet chosen to extend that tax bill. So the Democrats have so far been responsible for permitting the termination of that tax bill in 2010. All they have to do to rectify their error is vote to rescind the bill's current termination date and either make the bill permanent or at least extend it.

Betcha you already knew your claim was a popular O-D (i.e., Obama-Democrats) fairy tale.


It's not an error. We need these monies to cover shortfalls in the Federal budget. I don't know why you feel any differently; do you just not give a **** about endless deficits and debts?

Cycloptichorn
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 09:36 am
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

This is interesting...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/21/opinion/21tutu.html?_r=2&ref=opinion

Quote:
HAVING met President Obama, I’m confident that he’s a man of conscience who shares my commitment to bringing hope and care to the world’s poor. But I am saddened by his decision to spend less than he promised to treat AIDS patients in Africa.

George W. Bush made an impressive commitment to the international fight against AIDS when he formed the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief program. Since 2004, Pepfar has spent $19 billion to help distribute anti-viral treatments to about 2.5 million Africans infected with H.I.V


So, here is another campaign promise broken by Obama, except this one will cause people to die.
Unless you want to say that Desmond Tutu has no idea what he is talking about.


From the article

Quote:
Yet President Obama added only $366 million to the program this year — well below the $1 billion per year he promised to add when he was on the campaign trail.


Hah, well this might be due to the fact that we entered a major recession in between Obama's time on the campaign trail and his time in office, and we don't have the money to fully fund assistance to other countries at this time.

How hard is this stuff to figure out, MM?

Cycloptichorn
JTT
 
  1  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 11:07 am
@mysteryman,
Right back at it, eh MM? Why not address the numerous terrorist actions against Cuba that YOU asked to see?

GW Bush made an impressive commitment to killing innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Aids thing was just to help him put a shine on a badly tarnished image. It's hard to shine up a piece of dung though, isn't it?
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ican711nm
 
  0  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 11:09 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
We need these monies to cover shortfalls in the Federal budget.

Federal receipt (i.e., revenue) shortfalls are best reduced by cutting federal spending. That better permits the private sector to grow and prosper.

Federal receipts have increased each and every year 1980 to June 2010, regardless of tax rates over the same period. However, jobs decreased significantly after 2007 when the Democrats took control of Congress and Bush accomodated their spending increases via TARP. Then Obama not only continued Bush's spending errors, he expanded them!

FEDERAL OUTLAYS
1980.............$0.591 trillion [CARTER]
1988….......….$1.064 trillion [REAGAN]
1992..............$1,.382 trillion [BUSH41]
2000.............$1.789 trillion [CLINTON]
2008.............$2,902 trillion [BUSH43]
2010 (June)....$3,049 trillion [OBAMA]

FEDERAL RECEIPTS
1980.................$0.517 trillion [CARTER]
1988…............…$0.909 trillion [REAGAN]
1992.................$1.091 trillion [BUSH41]
2000................$2.025 trillion [CLINTON]
2008................$2.662 trillion [BUSH43]
2010 (June)........$2.955 trillion [OBAMA]

PERCENT OF POPULATION EMPLOYED
1980…………………………………….59.2 [CARTER]
1988…………………………………….62.3 [REAGAN]
1992…………………………………….61.5 [BUSH41]
2000…………………………………….64.4 [CLINTON]
2007…………………………………….63.0 [BUSH43]
2008…………………………………….62.2 [BUSH43]
2010 (June).………………………….58.5 [OBAMA]
rabel22
 
  0  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 11:34 am
@plainoldme,
I would love to see her sue this a hole and fox media. Who knows? the liberal media might pick up the story of republican lies and run with it. There are many republican untruths running around out there.
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 11:49 am
@ican711nm,
Quote:

Federal receipt (i.e., revenue) shortfalls are best reduced by cutting federal spending. That better permits the private sector to grow and prosper.


No, it doesn't. Levels of Federal spending and taxation have very little to do with the private sector growing and prospering.

Cycloptichorn
ican711nm
 
  0  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 12:59 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Levels of Federal spending and taxation have a lot to do with the private sector growing and prospering.

Bush in 2008 went "along to get along" with the Democrat Majoriy elected in 2006. In 2008, he signed their damnable TARP bill. Obama not only continued TARP, he added the Stimulus bill which has made things even worse.

What has been the result? As a result, employment has decreased significantly since 2008.

But I believe you know that! I believe you're merely preaching OD fairy tales in emulation of nazis propagandist, Joseph Paul Goebbels.


Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 01:14 pm
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

Levels of Federal spending and taxation have a lot to do with the private sector growing and prospering.

Bush in 2008 went "along to get along" with the Democrat Majoriy elected in 2006. In 2008, he signed their damnable TARP bill. Obama not only continued TARP, he added the Stimulus bill which has made things even worse.

What has been the result? As a result, employment has decreased significantly since 2008.


Dude, do you even know the difference between Correlation and Causation?

Not only that, but employment had already started to plummet FAR before TARP or Obama's election. The causes of jobs lost in the economy have nothing to do with TARP or the Stimulus bill. At all.

Quote:
But I believe you know that! I believe you're merely preaching OD fairy tales in emulation of nazis propagandist, Joseph Paul Goebbels.


You're a ******* moron sometimes, Ican. Truly.

Cycloptichorn
JTT
 
  0  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 01:48 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Quote:
I believe you're merely preaching OD fairy tales in emulation of nazis propagandist, Joseph Paul Goebbels.


Cy does preach some fairy tales. His best one is that the USA is not a terrorist state even though the US government releases information through the Freedom of Information Act that describes its state terrorism.

If that ain't a go figure ... . So at least you know that Cy can be moronic too. But he's got miles and miles to go before he ever reaches your level.
ican711nm
 
  -3  
Thu 22 Jul, 2010 02:17 pm
@JTT,
JTT, I believe you too are merely preaching OD fairy tales in emulation of nazis propagandist, Joseph Paul Goebbels.
 

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