cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 11:58 am
@okie,
But his definition of hypocrite would not resemble the general understanding of that word.
plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 12:19 pm
@ican711nm,
If all that stuff is true, why do you hate liberals?

BTW, is 79 your AC setting in summer or your heat setting in winter?

But, as a conservative, perhaps, you follow Leo Strauss and there isn't one shred of truth in what you write.
plainoldme
 
  0  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 12:21 pm
@cicerone imposter,
What okie and maporsche have in common is meanness. Both love to dig into others and insult them. Shows how small each of them is.
maporsche
 
  1  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 01:12 pm
@plainoldme,
Am I being mean?

You are criticizing another poster about not being environmentally conscious, yet it can be convincingly argued that you aren't either.

I did not insult you. I was not mean. I disagree with you and your decisions, that's all.
ican711nm
 
  -1  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 02:14 pm
@plainoldme,
79F is my setting for minimum cooling by my AC unit.

68F is my setting for maximu heating by my AC unit.

I do not hate liberals. I only oppose them..

I oppose liberals because they work to redistribute wealth et cetera by stealing it from those who earn it and giving it to those who they claim need it, but do not earn it. By doing this they make the receivers of the stolen wealth et cetera dependent, and they make those stolen from less able to contribute to the betterment of our society.
ican711nm
 
  -4  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 03:50 pm
Quote:
How Obama Used an Army of Thugs to Steal the 2008 Democratic Party Nomination
By Fred Dardick Thursday, July 8, 2010

Think those billy club-armed New Black Panther thugs in Philadelphia were the first time Obama used Stalinist tactics to intimidate voters and disenfranchise the American people?

Think again.
In testimony this week before Congress, former Justice Department Official J. Christian Anderson revealed that not only were similar claims “pervasive”, but Obama activists committed the “same” crimes during the 2008 Democratic primary to help then-Sen. Obama defeat Democratic heir apparent Hillary Clinton.

Obama gamed the system in 2008 by not only allowing an army of young men to station themselves outside polling locations in African American communities to prevent elderly women and others from voting for their chosen candidate, Hillary Clinton, but he also trained thousands of willing accomplices—while I do not have confirmation, I do sense the presence of ACORN here—spread throughout the Democratic caucuses to commit voter fraud on a massive scale.

The movie “We Will Not Be Silenced”, made by Democratic Party activist Gigi Gaston, produced by Bettina Sofia Viviano, and executive produced by former Clinton Campaign Regional Director John Siegel, documents how the unknown Senator from Illinois used “falsified delegate counts, falsified documents, and other violations” to beat the seemingly unbeatable Clinton machine and claim the Democratic nomination.

The documentary describes “the disenfranchising of American citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign… ‘Change’ from Chicago encouraged and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify documents, change results, allow unregistered people to vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stalk them, threaten them, lock them out of their polling places, silence their voices and stop their right to vote.”

“Teachers, professors, civil rights activists, lawyers, janitors, physicists, ophthalmologists, accountants, mathematicians, retirees… discuss how their party has disenfranchised them, and how, when they saw and reported multiple instances of fraud, everyone turned a blind eye. Rather than support and protect the voices and votes of its loyal members, the DNC chose to sweep this under the rug by looking the other way.”

During the election, the Hillary campaign issued multiple press releases in an attempt to publicize these events and bring them to the voter’s attention, but to no avail. The main stream media, like the Democrat Party leadership, had already chosen their candidate.

They willfully ignored the worst election abuses in a generation and allowed an immoral and unworthy man take control of this great nation.

I highly recommend you watch the entire video; it will only take about 35 minutes and is well worth the time. Be sure to forward it on to others, because everyone should know the true story about how Obama became President.
A link to the We Will Not Be Silenced website.

The documentary is available in four parts on YouTube here. ()
'We Will Not Be Silenced' Highlights

Part 1, 3:35, “Obama supporters were going back through the crowd, telling the people that were on the other side of the table and people outside (Hillary supporters), that they could go home, that they had been counted. I turned and said ‘Don’t they need to sign a sheet first?’ And of course, that is how they are counted. A lot of those people who went home (without signing), English was not their first language.”

Part 1, 4:45, “I was listening to a conversation… The people were talking about how they were going to be collecting names for the following day, asking people if they were coming back to caucus… They were talking about how they were going to be taking those names and they wouldn’t have to be physically there, but their votes would be counted.”

Part 2, 0:25, Dr. Linda Hayes: “We investigated fraud at the precinct level in conventions all over south Houston… Hillary attained 51% of the votes in Texas and by popular vote Obama only attained 47.4%. As a scientist and mathematician I was curious as the results came in from the precincts and that the precinct caucuses did not reflect those numbers, so I could see something was wrong… We laboriously went through each of the (caucus) sign in sheets to see if they were properly filled out… and many, many, many Obama people either came to the wrong precinct, they did not sign in properly, they did not show ID, or they had not voted that day… How they determine the delegates is on these sign in sheets. So when so many people were registered illegally for Obama, they attained the lion’s portion of the delegates.”

Part 2, 5:35, John Siegel: “Hillary won the popular vote by about 4%, but ended up losing the caucuses by 10%. So there is this huge 14 point swing between what Hillary should have won in a normal state and what she got at the end of the caucuses in Texas.”

Part 2, 6:20, “The worst thing that we saw in Indiana, was parents coming into the office saying that the Gary Indiana Public School System had bussed their children to Crown Point Indiana to vote in the election. That was a great civics lesson, but if children were being told to go to the polls and vote for Obama, which they were, parents were livid. They were outraged and they wanted to know what could be done about this… It was atrocious, because what lesson in civics were kids learning that day? Win by any means necessary? The right to vote is a sacred right in America, and we take school children and bus them on a school day, tell them who to vote for, then pay them for their lunch, and then dismiss them from school early on taxpayer money?”

Part 3, 0:00, “By about twelve o’clock, one o’clock on election day, all hell broke loose. We started getting phone calls from people at various precincts where there were Obama supporters getting sign-ins before the polls had even closed. We had people who were being shouted down and intimidated when they were for Hillary Clinton.”

Part 3, 3:54, Civil Rights Activist who had marched with Martin Luther King: “I had come to Indiana in the early afternoon about one o’clock. I was just sort of riding through the communities to get a feel for what was going on… There were some guys who had put up lawn chairs in front of the door going into the community center, so I stopped and parked my car. I got out of my car and there was this lady, probably about 80 years old, who was slowly walking up the street. As she was approaching the entranceway to go into the building, one of the young men called to her ‘If you’re not voting for Obama, go home, because you’re not voting here today.’ She turned and walked away. The pain that I felt, because of the people who have fought for African Americans to have the right to vote, this fight that has gone on for many, many, many years and to see two African American young men deny the right, under the veiled threat of violence, to a woman who looked to be around 80 years old, and not allow her an opportunity to vote. I felt appalled. While I was standing there, there were other people approaching, maybe four or five, and when they heard that they all turned and walked away.”

Part 3, 7:20, Kevin Dujan, Iowa: “There were these two women sitting at the table checking in people, looking over names. I went standing behind the two elderly women that we had brought to the caucus location and they mysteriously could not find their names in the book. The two women saw that these women had Hillary stickers on them… so they weren’t going to let them caucus. They said ‘Oh, you must be in some other caucus.’ I said ‘Look lady, I’m from Chicago and I know tricks like this. Let me see that book or we’re going to get the precinct captain over here and we’re going to look and find the names together. I guarantee this woman’s in here, because she’s not a liar. She’s ninety years old and has been looking forward to this. Don’t tell me she’s not in the book.’ Well then, wouldn’t you know it, miraculously and mysteriously, once I made that big of a push, she magically found her name in the book and let her go be a part of the caucus… I noticed that that was not happening for any of the Obama people, they were just getting waved right through.”

Part 4, 5:45, “I thought it was an isolated incident, just in my precinct. It’s not, and that what bothers me. How can we not look at the system? If it happens in every precinct and every one of us has a very similar story, I can not believe that we don’t see it as manipulating a situation. People told me, Obama supporters who went to the training, that they have been trained to be aggressive.”

Part 4, 6:20, “They knew from the beginning all the problems with all the security holes in the caucus. They knew they filtered out people. They knew the low turn out rates. They must have known from other elections how many votes from caucus states are not exact votes, but just an estimate projected from news organizations.”
________________________________________
Fred Dardick is the owner and operator of a medical staffing company based in Chicago. Prior to the business world, he worked as a biological researcher at various highly regarded universities in the United States. Fred can be reached at:
[email protected]
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realjohnboy
 
  2  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 06:47 pm
I am newly semi-retired, which causes a certain reallocation of time. Some for the better and some for the worse.
A poster here claims that one J. Christian Anderson testified before Congress this week. He is said to be, according to the source, a former Justice Department official offering damning testimony against Obama.
1) Congress has not been in session this week.
2) I can not find any committee or sub committee with a witness named J. Christian Anderson.
3) The Justice Department says they can find no employee, current or former, named J. Christian Anderson.
A google search turns up nothing on J. Christian Anderson but much on Hans Christian Anderson, who wrote fairy tales.
The breathlessly reported articles cited come from place called "Canada News," or something. They also are reporting that the "Obama regime recess appoints Marxist to run death panels." That is their grammar.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 06:49 pm
@realjohnboy,
Quote:
I am newly semi-retired, which causes a certain reallocation of time.
What did you do with the stores??
Irishk
 
  1  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 06:59 pm
@realjohnboy,
I don't know what post you're referring to, but the name you're looking for is most probably J. Christian Adams....not Anderson.
realjohnboy
 
  2  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 07:38 pm
@Irishk,
I was referring to a link posted by our good friend, Ican. He listed it as Anderson. All of the articles cited mentioned testimony before Congress by J. Christian Anderson this week.
ican711nm
 
  -1  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 07:42 pm
Quote:

http://radioviceonline.com/j-christian-adams-testifies-doj-demonizes-video-bullst/
J Christian Adams Testifies, DOJ demonizes -Video “Bulls##t”
July 6, 2010 at 2:06 pm by Jim Vicevich 5 Comments | Share via e-mail
This is just an update. J. Christian Adams testified today before the US Commission on Civil Rights as the non partisan group began to investigate the DOJ’s dismissal of the voter intimidation case against the New Black Panther party.

On trial is the DOJ itself, and you can read the background here. Today Adams told the Commission that attorneys who worked on the case were shocked when the case was dropped because it was such a slam dunk. So outraged was his boss, Christopher Coats, that Coates actually threw a memo that outlined the case, back in the face of his superiors, when he learned they had not even bothered to read it.
...
The DOJ has begun to demonize Adams, and my guess is Coates will be on the list too. Here’s the official response from DOJ.
...
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realjohnboy
 
  2  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 08:03 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
I am newly semi-retired, which causes a certain reallocation of time.
What did you do with the stores??

An exit strategy. Oy.
I sold one of my stores to long time managers. They made a lot of wrong decisions and went out of business within 2 years.
Another is run by a lady who wants to retire in 2 years. It's making money but I negotiated the lease such that when she goes, I will close it down. My flagship stores keep on trucking after 35 years.
I still come in at 7 am but I deliberately don't do too much and leave about 1 pm.
The stores will be turned over to a few key employees to see if they can keep this 35 year old business going.
I am a big believer in a concept I call "institutional memory." Too often businesses or government agencies come up with some grand idea. And there is no one there to say "We tried that. It failed."
Thanks for asking, hawk. I am now into real estate development. The land under my stores. Quite fascinating.
okie
 
  -1  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 10:34 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:
I am now into real estate development. The land under my stores. Quite fascinating.


I don't think plainoldme will take kindly to that, rjb!!
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cicerone imposter
 
  -1  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 10:39 pm
@plainoldme,
Not really: okie has no concept of reality, and therefore spew his own world view which doesn't resemble reality in any way. He not only misinterprets past history, but can't see the real world of today.
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 10:44 pm
@ican711nm,
You have no understanding of liberals. The people stealing the wealth, literally redistributing it are those people in the top earnings' quintile. Wages for the "four bottom quintiles" have been flat since 1979. The top quintile is robbing and raping the rest of us, which, most likely includes you. It is the top 1% that you should despise and fear.

Those at the top are destroying society.
plainoldme
 
  0  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 10:46 pm
@realjohnboy,
ican is not a good researcher. It is good that you double checked this: every post of ican's must be checked as almost every post contains factual errors. He is always loathe to correct them.
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mysteryman
 
  1  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 10:48 pm
@realjohnboy,
To be honest, I havent been following the out of state elections like I should.
I have been to busy trying to figure out who I am gonna vote for here in Ky.
Neither candidate impresses me all that much.

So while I had heard the name Alvin Greene, I hadnt paid much attention to who he is or what his story is.
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mysteryman
 
  1  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 10:49 pm
@DrewDad,
I wasnt commenting on the organization, just on the one man.
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plainoldme
 
  0  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 10:50 pm
@maporsche,
I guess you would seek to deprive me of my lousy $22,000 a year for which I work two jobs, always six, sometimes seven, days a week.
okie
 
  -2  
Thu 8 Jul, 2010 10:50 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
I did not insult you. I was not mean. I disagree with you and your decisions, that's all.

Are you learning, maporsche, that disagreeing with an ultra-liberal is often interpreted as hating them? I have found this to be an interesting and fascinating character trait, but this seems to be confirmed over and over on this debate forum.

At the same time, I have never witnessed the level of hatred that has been leveled at conservatives or Republicans, such as George W. Bush. Anyone that expresses a definite standard of judgement or morality is fair game as far as they are concerned. Using black and white judgements is especially scarey to them, such as anyone that would have the nerve to declare abortion to be morally repugnant and wrong. And in regard to other issues such as being against illegal immigration, accusations of bigotry are not uncommon. And this is also tied to class envy, as pom has just told us it is the top 1% earners in this country that should be hated, which is ample demonstration of the hatred for those that have achieved more than they have.
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