okie
 
  -3  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 07:38 pm
@MASSAGAT,
Massagat, libs hate it when I post the well written and researched article titled "HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST," by John Ray, and they almost go into orbit, starting with who does this John Ray guy think he is to challenge their massaged record of history that Hitler was some kind of right wing whacko, which is of course nonsense, because Hitler was obviously a big Statist leftist, absolutely no doubt about it when you examine his beliefs, his policies, and the 25 points of the Nazi Party.

http://jonjayray.tripod.com/hitler.html

Another little issue here, I suggested Hitler rose to power using democratic means and the electoral process, and of course the libs are calling me wrong. But from Wikipedia: (Note an interesting word in there, they refer to Hitler as an "organizer," ha ha, I guess communities had to be "organized" in Germany too!

"Hitler rose to a place of prominence in the early years of the party (1919 - 1923) largely as a result of his considerable skills in oratory, organization and promotion. He was aided in part by his willingness to use violence in advancing his political objectives and to recruit party members who were willing to do the same. The Beer Hall putsch in 1923 and the later release of his book Mein Kampf (usually translated as My Struggle) introduced Hitler to a wider audience. In the mid-1920s, the party engaged in electoral battles in which Hitler participated as a speaker and organizer[3], as well as in street battles and violence between the Rotfrontkämpferbund and the Nazi's Sturmabteilung (SA). Through the late 1920s and early 1930s, the Nazis gathered enough electoral support to become the largest political party in the Reichstag, and Hitler's blend of political acuity, deceptiveness and cunning converted the party's non-majority but plurality status into effective governing power in the ailing Weimar Republic of 1933.Through the late 1920s and early 1930s, the Nazis gathered enough electoral support to become the largest political party in the Reichstag, and Hitler's blend of political acuity, deceptiveness and cunning converted the party's non-majority but plurality status into effective governing power in the ailing Weimar Republic of 1933."
realjohnboy
 
  1  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 08:29 pm
@okie,
About what?
okie
 
  0  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 10:24 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

About what?

Obama shooting hoops with somebody. Seriously, it struck me as not interesting at all, and not important at all. Just my opinion. No intention of insulting at all, just my opinion. By the way, it is very easy to just click on the part of my post that shows what my post is in regard to and you would have seen the "about what."
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okie
 
  -1  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 10:29 pm
@okie,
See folks, the libs have gotten my post down to Minus 2, they do not want to read the truth about Hitler being a leftist, nor do they want to admit Hitler used the electoral process to gain power.
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MASSAGAT
 
  -1  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 10:41 pm
@okie,
A good post-Okie- But, of course, you realize that Cyclops will immediately brand your source which places Rasmussen in such a high position as a RIGHT WING source. You see, Okie, in Cyclops's world, the only valid sources are The Daily Kos, Move On .org, Michael Moore, The Nation and, sometimes, the Huffington Post.

You can not deal with people with a closed mind. But, Okie, the best PROOF that Rasmussen is a valid source is the accuracy with which Rasmussen predicts elections. Rasmussen is never more than two or three points off the actual result in percentage terms.
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MASSAGAT
 
  -1  
Sat 3 Apr, 2010 11:01 pm
@okie,
When you show that some of the chief planks in the Nazi movement were Socialist, Okie, you indeed do injure them seriously. You know, of course, that many of the left wing, were at one time( twenties and thirties--especially FDR's Brain Trust) admirers of Soviet Communism. Then, when it became clear that the Cold War was in earnest and the Soviets threatened to support missles in Cuba, even the rabid left wingers had to drop their support for the Soviets.

But they never failed in their backing of Socialism. Socialism,is, of course, the passageway to Soviet style totalitarianism. And, unlike pregnancy, it is possible to be a little Socialistic. Just as it is possible to have a slight cold. But, under Obama, we are slipping into pneumonia.

But, back to the left wing Nazis.

Note the principles listed in the Nazi Party Platform--some of them are right out of the Far Left Socialist handbook.

Abolition of unearned( work and labour) incomes.

A total confiscation of war profits

A division of profits of heavy industry

Provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purpose of public utility and prevention of all speculation in land.

Legal opposition to known lies and their promulation through the press.

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H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 06:36 am


"The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

M.T.
djjd62
 
  2  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 06:50 am
@H2O MAN,
H2O MAN wrote:
For the First Time in My Adult Lifetime, I Am Really Ashamed of My Country.


you realize this says more about you than it does the country
H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 07:10 am
@djjd62,


You are mistaken... it says everything about the Obama's and this country... it's not about me.
djjd62
 
  1  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 07:20 am
@H2O MAN,
it's sad that you can so narrowly define your country

i'm guessing that nothing any government to date has done, has really affected your everyday life, your relationships with friends (true friends) and family, life in your home town or travels across the country (last time i heard, the national park system, the rockies, mount rushmore et al were still there)

it's narrow minded to think a politician can change the country, he can only change the rules

i think my provincial and federal governments are asshats (if you're interested one is liberal and one is conservative), but nothing they do changes the country, i can still go for a walk in the woods, the canadian shield is still there

i'm no homer, i detest patriotic flag waving, but i never let my feelings for something as stupid as a government, cloud my feelings for the country
H2O MAN
 
  0  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 08:04 am
@djjd62,

You are mistaken once again.

It's narrow minded to think a politician and his or her supporters can't fundamentally change the country.
History shows that it has happened before... Obama's radical changes are harming the country in so many ways.

I am really ashamed of my fellow countrymen because they bought into this whole Hope & Change scam.
All elections have their consequences and this last one has far reaching and damaging consequences like never before.
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ican711nm
 
  0  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 08:49 am
FURTHER CAUSE FOR SUSPICION THAT OBAMA WAS NOT BORN IN THE USA!
Quote:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/03/faux-first-lady-admits-obama-born-in-kenya/
Faux First Lady admits Obama born in Kenya
WHAT OTHER EVIDENCE DO WE NEED?
by Sharon Rondeau
Obama's wife admits he was born in Kenya by describing it as his "home
country." What other evidence would a court or the military need to
charge him with fraud and treason?

(Apr. 3, 2010) " While giving a speech on AIDS and health care to a
delegation of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender (GLBT) Democrats,
Michelle Obama described Kenya as Obama’s “home country.”

The story about his being born in Hawaii seems less and less likely
with each passing day. His Muslim/African roots are very obvious with
his obeisance to the Saudi king and his false statement made while
celebrating Ramadan at the White House that “The contribution of
Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims
are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country.”

Obama also actively campaigned for his Marxist Kenyan cousin, Raila
Odinga, in 2006, in apparent violation of the Logan Act.

It would seem that very little else would be needed to prove that
Obama is a foreign-born usurper who does not qualify to be president
and should be removed from office immediately.

This might explain why the state of Hawaii refuses to open Obama’s
records: they most likely have nothing to indicate that he was born
there. Since only one person, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, has stated that
Obama was unequivocally born there but has revealed nothing to back up
her statement, and her own state’s attorney general also refuses to
corroborate her statement, it would appear that Obama has some type of
amended birth record on file in Hawaii but nothing more.

If it can be proven that Dr. Fukino and her public information
officer, Janice Okubo, have participated in a grand cover-up of
Obama’s past by lying to the entire nation and world, then they should
be charged with fraud and treason to this nation as well.

The U.S. military needs a “natural born Citizen” for its Commander-in-
Chief. The American people need someone without dual or foreign
allegiances who has the best interest of the country in mind at all
times. The foreigner who usurps the Presidency now is a fraud, an
imposter, and a traitor to this country.

If Obama had been born in Hawaii, it would seem highly unlikely that
his wife would refer to Kenya as “his home country.” Previously, the
Kenyan Ambassador to the U.S., Peter Ogego, had also admitted that
Obama’s birthplace in Kenya was “well-known.”

When does the military step in and as a whole, refuse to take a
usurper’s orders? How much longer can Defense Secretary Robert Gates,
the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General George Casey and others continue to
participate in this charade? Our government has been overtaken by a
foreign power, and for the last 16 months, Americans have been held
hostage to a usurper and a criminal Congress. How much longer can
this go on?
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 09:59 am
@okie,
That Fordham link has been disproven on this board many times, Okie; if you look closely you will note that it was released the day after the election, but doesn't include FINAL vote counts.

This is probably the second or third time you've had this pointed out to you, and you just don't care.

Anyway, you ought to know the difference between ELECTION polling and OPINION polling. They are two separate things, yet you fall into the same error that many Conservatives do, pretending that Ras' record on electoral polling means that their issue polling is accurate as well.

Cycloptichorn
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 10:10 am
@okie,
Quote:

Massagat, libs hate it when I post the well written and researched article titled "HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST," by John Ray, and they almost go into orbit, starting with who does this John Ray guy think he is to challenge their massaged record of history that Hitler was some kind of right wing whacko, which is of course nonsense, because Hitler was obviously a big Statist leftist, absolutely no doubt about it when you examine his beliefs, his policies, and the 25 points of the Nazi Party.


John Ray is a moron who doesn't know his history and you already had this clearly pointed out to you, Okie, in your thread comparing Liberalism to Nazis. And it wasn't liberals who were telling you this, it was Conservatives on this site such as GeorgeOB1 and High Seas. Do you remember this?

Cycloptichorn
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ican711nm
 
  0  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 10:31 am
Ignoramuses advertise their ignorance by attacking the source of an opinion, because they are too incompetent to formulate a rational critique of the opinion itself.
djjd62
 
  1  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 11:11 am
@ican711nm,
Wait! What?

this from the cut and paste kid

is it april fools all over again
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 12:00 pm

http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/images/avatars/1682132444b93e7a005b65.gif
realjohnboy
 
  0  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 12:02 pm
@H2O MAN,
Um, who is the guy beating the President? "Everyman" or someone whose name we have heard?
djjd62
 
  2  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 12:04 pm
@realjohnboy,
looks like rush limbaugh, must have got a fresh supply of doctor shopped oxycotin
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H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Sun 4 Apr, 2010 12:08 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:

Um, who is the guy beating the President?


I'm sure just about any guy could whip PrezBO's ass, but the guy in the video is Rush.

Hit him again - harder, harder.
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