cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 12 Feb, 2007 04:03 pm
sozobe, Your link will not open. ;(
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JPB
 
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Mon 12 Feb, 2007 06:42 pm
The 60 Minutes link? Worked for me, ci.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Mon 12 Feb, 2007 09:14 pm
It worked for me too - after I tried several times. Probably a ISP disconnect problem.
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blatham
 
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Tue 13 Feb, 2007 05:59 am
Re the Kristol quote on previous page...

Here is a quote from his father Irving during the McCarthy period
Quote:
"For there is one thing that the American people know about Senator McCarthy; he, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesman for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing."


And from Bill recently
Quote:
"But the American people, whatever their doubts about aspects of Bush's foreign policy, know that Bush is serious about fighting terrorists and terrorist states that mean America harm. About Bush's Democratic critics, they know no such thing."

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2003_07_20_atrios_archive.html

Quote:
As Hillary Clinton recounts on page 230 of her new memoir, Kristol advised Republicans in a famous memo that the Clinton health plan "was a serious political threat to the Republican Party." Any progress on the uninsured that Clinton could call a victory would be a seminal boost to Democrats for years. For the sake of the party, Kristol therefore argued, the GOP simply could not compromise with Clinton.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2003/06/b9356.html

Quote:
December 2, 1993 - Leading conservative operative William Kristol privately circulates a strategy document to Republicans in Congress. Kristol writes that congressional Republicans should work to "kill" -- not amend -- the Clinton plan because it presents a real danger to the Republican future: Its passage will give the Democrats a lock on the crucial middle-class vote and revive the reputation of the party. Nearly a full year before Republicans will unite behind the "Contract With America," Kristol has provided the rationale and the steel for them to achieve their aims of winning control of Congress and becoming America's majority party. Killing health care will serve both ends. The timing of the memo dovetails with a growing private consensus among Republicans that all-out opposition to the Clinton plan is in their best political interest. Until the memo surfaces, most opponents prefer behind-the-scenes warfare largely shielded from public view. The boldness of Kristol's strategy signals a new turn in the battle. Not only is it politically acceptable to criticize the Clinton plan on policy grounds, it is also politically advantageous. By the end of 1993, blocking reform poses little risk as the public becomes increasingly fearful of what it has heard about the Clinton plan.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/forum/may96/background/health_debate_page2.html

Just so that everyone is clear on what this fellow is up to in his comments re Obama (or anything else)
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blatham
 
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Tue 13 Feb, 2007 06:23 am
The madrassa/clinton smear still operative, of course...

Quote:
During a discussion on the February 10 edition of CNN Newsroom about Sen. Barack Obama's (D-IL) announcement that he is running for the Democratic presidential nomination, Republican strategist Amy Holmes repeated the baseless smear that Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) may have been behind the discredited claim in a story posted on InsightMag.com that Obama attended a madrassa in his youth. After host Fredricka Whitfield asked Holmes and Democratic strategist Jenny Backus about the "possibility that we're going to see a fight between" Clinton and Obama, Holmes answered that "the phony madrassa story seemed to have possibly originated in the Hillary campaign." Backus said, "I think that was knocked down." Holmes then said: "I think that Jenny's being a little overly optimistic. Politics ain't beanbag, and Hillary's not going to let Obama roll over her." Whitfield ended the segment, saying, "Amy Holmes, you get the last word."

Holmes' claim that Clinton may have been responsible for the false madrassa report echoed an accusation by Fox News political analyst Dick Morris, who admitted that he did not have -- in the words of Fox News co-host Alan Colmes -- "any evidence that the Clintons were behind the smear." Morris nevertheless claimed that "obviously they were." As ABC News' Jake Tapper reported, the accusation that Clinton is responsible for the smear "remains unproven and unsubstantiated."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200702120002
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blatham
 
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Tue 13 Feb, 2007 06:35 am
Quote:
from Brad Delong...
Friday at sundown is a fitting moment to take note of a particularly pathetic piece of Journamalism from Mike Allen at the Politico.

You see, Mike Allen begins his trashing of Barack Obama. Understand: Mike Allen isn't doing the trashing--oh no no no. Mike Allen is just saying what the critics of Obama will say.

Let's give Mike the mike, and watch him take his dive:

http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2007/02/special_super_j.html
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Thomas
 
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Tue 13 Feb, 2007 07:16 am
dlowan wrote:
Howard is being lambasted by the Opposition for this inappropriate step, but I think Obama has made the perfect response.

Also, it's nice to see just how seriously Obama's opponents are taking him as a contender.

blatham wrote:
from Brad Delong...

I'm glad to see you discovering his blog. You won't be disappointed if you bookmark it. The only problem is, I'll need to get more careful with my plagiarizing.
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McGentrix
 
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Tue 13 Feb, 2007 10:16 am
http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/070212/cohen.jpg
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Lash
 
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Tue 13 Feb, 2007 06:38 pm
This contains truly weird quotes.

I'm glad the SC black politicians ( a group I wish could make independent decisions, but whatever) didn't feel they had to support Obama---but the ostensible reason... Surprised

Of course, the real reason is just as bad, I suppose.

Ford said ...what?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Tue 13 Feb, 2007 06:53 pm
Ford is pathetic. He should be ashamed of himself and scorned by the not so prejudice majority whom he insults with his rhetoric.

I can already hear the "doesn't have a chance" BS reminiscent of Perot's campaign. Self fulfilling prophecy, that. <shakes>
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dyslexia
 
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Tue 13 Feb, 2007 06:58 pm
kinda disturbing to me--google search this= (Obama votes "present")
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Lash
 
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Tue 13 Feb, 2007 07:29 pm
Relevant news: polling. Leaders pull ahead.

Googling, dys.

That's worse than flip-flopping. A real Prince...



(by Machiavelli)
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cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 13 Feb, 2007 07:40 pm
I'm not worried about today's numbers. What counts most is the trend that seems to show Obama gaining a little bit every month.
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dyslexia
 
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Tue 13 Feb, 2007 08:12 pm
Lash wrote:

Speaking of flip-flopping, how about that Mitt Romney, is he pro or anti choice?
A Dys prognostication, giuliani will bow out within 90 days.
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Lash
 
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Tue 13 Feb, 2007 09:09 pm
Don't know about Mitt.

NO!!!! (Giuliani)

Very Happy
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blatham
 
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Wed 14 Feb, 2007 02:48 am
Thomas wrote:
dlowan wrote:
Howard is being lambasted by the Opposition for this inappropriate step, but I think Obama has made the perfect response.

Also, it's nice to see just how seriously Obama's opponents are taking him as a contender.

blatham wrote:
from Brad Delong...

I'm glad to see you discovering his blog. You won't be disappointed if you bookmark it. The only problem is, I'll need to get more careful with my plagiarizing.


You'll likely recall when you and I first met here on a2k that I asked if you might be the same person posting as 'fakename' at abuzz. Delong was a favorite of his as well. Though I've known about the blog since then, I've only read it occasionaly and mostly when linked through some other reading (as happened above, via Alterman). I understand he is widely respected. That is, for a dismalist, of course. Out of friendship, I won't remark on any plagiarist thefts - under the agreement that you too leave unmentioned odd similarities between my posts and those found at the LASMLblog (for the poorly informed, that's Lesbians Against Strip Mining, Marxist/Leninist, of course).
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Butrflynet
 
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Sat 17 Feb, 2007 01:51 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/16/AR2007021602084.html

Young Voters Find Voice on Facebook
Site's Candidate Groups Are Grass-Roots Politics for the Web Generation

By Jose Antonio Vargas
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 17, 2007; Page A01



Excerpts:
Late on the day that Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) announced he was forming a presidential exploratory committee, Farouk Olu Aregbe logged on to Facebook.com, the popular online community where college students post profiles, share photos and blog. On a whim he created a group called "One Million Strong for Barack."
"I remember thinking, there's got to be more supporters out there," said Farouk, 26, who advises student government at the University at Missouri at Columbia.

Farouk's group had 100 members in the first hour. In less than five days, 10,000. By the third week, nearly 200,000. Yesterday, a month after he created the group, it had 278,100 members.

There are more than 500 Obama groups on Facebook. One of the first, "Students for Barack Obama," was created on July 7 by Meredith Segal, a junior at Bowdoin College who first heard of Obama when he gave the keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention in 2004. Instead of starting "a petition or something" to encourage the freshman senator to run for president, she turned to her Facebook page, created a group and invited people (first her friends, later strangers) to join.

Now it's a political action committee with nearly 62,000 members and chapters at 80 colleges, the most structured grass-roots student movement -- there's a director of field operations, an Internet director, a finance director and a blog team director -- in the presidential campaign so far. "Young people are on the Web," said Segal, 21. "That's how we're organizing."

(snip)

A few weeks ago, Segal's group staged a rally at George Mason University that drew an estimated 3,000 students -- and an appearance from Obama himself. This past Sunday, her group's Iowa State University chapter helped promote a rally that attracted more than 5,000.


(snip)

Meetup.com helped energize the Dean campaign, but more sophisticated social-networking sites such as Facebook, Friendster and MySpace were not a factor during the 2004 election. A recent Pew Research Center poll, however, reported that 54 percent of 18-to-25-year-olds have used them. And Joe Trippi, who spearheaded Dean's e-campaign, is among those who believe they will play a significant role in the current race.

"It took our campaign six months to get 139,000 people on an e-mail list," Trippi said. "It took one Facebook group, what, barely a month to get 200,000? That's astronomical."

(snip)

Added Todd Zeigler of the Bivings Group, a D.C.-based Internet communications firm that works with Republicans: "The key point here is that the support for Obama on these social-networking sites is not being driven by the campaign itself. It is something spontaneous as opposed to something the campaign itself is orchestrating. This shows a real enthusiasm for Obama's candidacy among young people that you aren't seeing for any other candidates at this point."

(snip)

Clinton has about the same number of Facebook groups as Obama, but the largest has only about 3,000 members, and many of the sites are maintained by opponents. For every group called "African-Americans for Hillary Rodham Clinton" (95 members), there is a group called "A second Bush was bad enough, don't give me a second Clinton" (55 members). Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has some presence on the site; a group called "John McCain in 2008" has 1,617 members. And though Obama himself has a few detractors -- a group that calls itself "Anybody That Would Support Barack Obama for President is a Moronic Liberal" has 424 members -- no one comes close to his overall popularity.

At 11 a.m. yesterday, "One Million Strong for Barack" had 278,100 members. Two and a half hours later, 278,537. Three hours later, 279,070.








link to the A2Kers for Obama group I created on barackobama.com

http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/A2KersforObama
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Lash
 
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Sat 17 Feb, 2007 02:01 pm
I think the voting "present" for political expediency is going to hand around his neck like an anvil.
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dyslexia
 
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Sat 17 Feb, 2007 02:22 pm
Lash wrote:
I think the voting "present" for political expediency is going to hand around his neck like an anvil.

A (as yet unknown) republican reported yesterday who vowed to vote for the resolution oppositing the Iraq invasion reported that he was antogionized by the whitehouse to vote "present" rather than support the resolution.
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Lash
 
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Sat 17 Feb, 2007 02:25 pm
I think all the Republicans should vote "present" in honor of our esteemed Senator from Illinois...and his buddies, the Daleys. What's good for the guy who wants to be Prez is good for everybody.
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