Gargamel
 
  2  
Tue 19 Jan, 2010 09:46 pm
@okie,
You sound like a nerd.
Rockhead
 
  1  
Tue 19 Jan, 2010 09:47 pm
@Gargamel,
who are you, and what have you done with the real gargamel???
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okie
 
  0  
Tue 19 Jan, 2010 10:07 pm
@Gargamel,
Gargamel wrote:

You sound like a nerd.

If it takes a nerd to fight Marxists anymore, count me a nerd.
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Advocate
 
  1  
Tue 19 Jan, 2010 11:03 pm
One really needs to hold his nose reading Okie. He gets more vile and putrid by the moment.

And then we have MM who thinks he is a constitutional scholar, although his writing is that of a five-year-old.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 12:58 am
Quote:
So, a Republican has convincingly won Ted Kennedy’s former Senate seat. After opposing health reform. And supporting the waterboarding of terrorists. And appearing as a nude centerfold. In a state where Democrats outnumber Republicans by three to one. And where Republicans haven’t won a Senate election since 1972. After a high-profile visit by President Obama. Who won the state by 26 points last year. But who now carries no political weight in the bluest state in the country. With vicious, public recriminations starting among Democrats even before election day. Following major losses in Virginia and New Jersey.

All of which led one popular Democratic blog to argue: “Why Massachusetts doesn’t matter.”

Well, it does matter. It means a president who no longer inspires political fear. It means moderate Senate Democrats -- such as Ben Nelson and Blanche Lincoln -- who now feel nothing but fear from angry voters. It means that cap-and-trade legislation and immigration reform are on life support. It means that Rahm Emanuel’s “big bang” theory of legislative liberalism is the most foolish political strategy in recent memory. It means that spending political capital on health reform instead of economic recovery and growth was a dreadful error. It means that a crisis that Obama didn’t want to waste has largely been wasted.


The response of prominent Democratic thinkers? "Since Americans think we are arrogant, let’s cram health reform down their throats, employing legislative trickery."
There is only one explanation for this remarkable turn of events. Americans thought Obama was a moderate. He certainly sounded like one. But now he is attempting to remake one seventh of the economy in a quick march of party-line votes. In the process, he has alienated independents in large numbers -- even in Massachusetts.

Obama now has the highest disapproval rating in the history of Gallup polling for a president entering his second year in office. He has been handed a series of political humiliations. If he takes all of this as motivation to “stay the course,” the humiliations have only begun.

By Michael Gerson | January 19, 2010; 10:54 PM ET


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/01/why_massachusetts_senate_race.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

ouch
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 01:08 am
@hawkeye10,
hawk, Reads pretty accurate to me! Obama didn't listen to the people, and he lost. That's what Bush did, and the country almost died.
ican711nm
 
  0  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 12:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Obama didn't listen to the people, and he lost. That's what Bush did, and the country almost died.

Well finally you admit--or rather, logically imply-- Obama's amplified emulations of Bush's errors, if continued, will cause the country to finally die.

Excellent! Congratulations!
Advocate
 
  1  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 03:23 pm
@ican711nm,
I gather that the GOP platform is a return to Bush economics.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 03:27 pm
@Advocate,
But, who's leading the charge for the republicans? Palin?
ican711nm
 
  0  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 04:16 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:
I gather that the GOP platform is a return to Bush economics.

I gather the GOP platform will evolve to that which Palin, Brown and the Tea Party advocate be the new GOP economics.
ican711nm
 
  0  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 04:19 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Palin, Brown and the Tea Party are leading the charge to transform the Republican platform and the Republican Party to that consistent with the principles of classical liberals like Washington, Adams, and Jefferson.
okie
 
  -1  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 04:22 pm
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:
Obama didn't listen to the people, and he lost. That's what Bush did, and the country almost died.

Well finally you admit--or rather, logically imply-- Obama's amplified emulations of Bush's errors, if continued, will cause the country to finally die.

Excellent! Congratulations!

He voted for Obama and his goofy policies. Go figure! Obama is attempting to do what he told the people he would do, he listened to his voters, and this is the result. Its the independents and people in the middle that are actually waking up to who Obama is and what they voted for, and they are retreating big time. The Obama presidency is a result of a giant snow job by the media, and people are waking up from their trance.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 04:36 pm
@okie,
okie, You should speak! Bush made all kinds of goofy choices during his first term, and continued to show his incompetence, but the republicans saw to it to give him another term in the white house. You want to see a list of all the lies and incompetent choices Bush made? It's easy to find on Google.

Do you think Obama's going to get the same opportunity?
ican711nm
 
  0  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 04:54 pm
Obama could rectify his previous lawlessness. He could, in conformity with Article V of the Constitution, urge Congress to propose the following amendment to Article V of the Constitution of the United states:

A majority of Congress together with the President and a majority of the Supreme Court shall have the lawful power to jointly amend this Constitution of the USA without the approval of three-fourths of the States.

If this amendment were ratified by three quarters of the States, then all those previous unlawful amendments by the Congress, the President, and the Supreme Court could be lawfully adopted.

I for one would oppose the adoption of such an amendment to the Constitution of the USA. But I'm only one of millions of registered voters.
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parados
 
  2  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 05:06 pm
@ican711nm,
Which principles of the Tea Party, pray tell were consistent whit those held by Washington, Adams, and Jefferson?

Marching on Washington to protest the government? Nope
Lying about legislation? Nope
Not understanding even the most basic ideas in the Constitution? Nope

Adams would have been all for trying terrorists in US courts. Adams might have even been willing to be their defense attorney. Where are the Tea Party leaders on that principle?

ican711nm
 
  0  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 05:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Cice, I don't want Obama to emulate and amplify "all kinds of Bush's goofy choices." But that is exactly what Obama is doing, while criticizing Bush for "all kinds of Bush's goofy choices."

That's not only stupid, that's nuts.
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Advocate
 
  1  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 06:41 pm
@ican711nm,
ican711nm wrote:

Advocate wrote:
I gather that the GOP platform is a return to Bush economics.

I gather the GOP platform will evolve to that which Palin, Brown and the Tea Party advocate be the new GOP economics.


Palin, Brown, and the Tea Partiers have no economic plan, except for the failed Bush policies.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 06:44 pm
@Advocate,
Yeah, more tax cuts for the wealthy - that's supposed to create jobs. ROFLAMO
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BigTexN
 
  -3  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 07:00 pm
@Advocate,
Quote:
Palin, Brown, and the Tea Partiers have no economic plan, except for the failed Bush policies.


...and the diehard Teddy liberals of Massachusetts voted for them!! LMAO!!!!!

So, the failed Bush policies must be better than the "hope" of the Nobel Prize winner!
ican711nm
 
  0  
Wed 20 Jan, 2010 07:01 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Which principles of the Tea Party, pray tell were consistent whit those held by Washington, Adams, and Jefferson?

Marching on Washington to protest the government? Nope
Lying about legislation? Nope
Not understanding even the most basic ideas in the Constitution? Nope

Adams would have been all for trying terrorists in US courts. Adams might have even been willing to be their defense attorney. Where are the Tea Party leaders on that principle?

Wow! You are more ignorant of USA history than I thought!

YES, WASHINGTON, ADAMS, AND JEFFERSON WOULD HAVE APPROVED: "Marching on Washington to protest the government!"
Our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence, wrote:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

Our founding fathers in the FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE USA, wrote:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

ADAMS WOULD NOT: "have been all for trying terrorists in US courts!"
Our founding fathers in the CONSTITUTION OF THE USA, wrote:
The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.

What do you claim are some of the LIES told by the Tea Party about legislation? What evidence do you have to support your claim?

What do you claim are examples of the Tea Party NOT understanding even the most basic ideas in the Constitution? What evidence do you have to support your claim?
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