Gargamel
 
  2  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 09:47 am
@Advocate,
Fuckin' seriously. The political spectrum in this country doesn't even extend as far left as it does elsewhere, where there are legitimate socialist parties and candidates. What a wiener.
dyslexia
 
  2  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 09:47 am
I'd probably agree with Joe more if he didn't have reactionary-conservative tendencies.
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 09:51 am
It must have been somewhat like this, talking to people who were dead convinced the Commies were going to take over, 50 years ago. Probably the same people, in fact.

Cycloptichorn
okie
 
  0  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 12:11 pm
@Gargamel,
Gargamel wrote:

Fuckin' seriously. The political spectrum in this country doesn't even extend as far left as it does elsewhere, where there are legitimate socialist parties and candidates. What a wiener.

That is because ultra socialists and Marxists are liars. They know they would not get to first base if they actually were honest and admitted what ultimate political philosophy they believed, so that is what we have in Obama. He has never been honest, but with anybody that has an ounce of sense, they soon catch onto the fact that all of his Marxist mentors and friends, that it means something. You also start catching on when Obama says the buzzwords, like spreading the wealth around, "social justice," the unfairness of big companies and constantly talking about and demonizing anybody that is in business, the grandiose visions of government and what it can do, one must soon face the truth about the modern Democratic Party and Obama, and what they are up to.

I am personally fed up with such ilk that are not honest about themselves and do not believe in freedom and liberty, and America. Too many people have died to defend it, to have some two bit Chicago thug politician come along and try to take it away from us.
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 12:13 pm
@okie,
Can you name any actual freedoms or liberties that Obama is trying to take away, Okie?

Cycloptichorn
okie
 
  0  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 12:15 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

It must have been somewhat like this, talking to people who were dead convinced the Commies were going to take over, 50 years ago. Probably the same people, in fact.

Cycloptichorn

The commies are still at it, cyclops, and if you don't believe in it, then wake up. If you favor commies, then admit it. You actually have in part, but not totally. You have actually admitted you like parts of Marxism and some other really screwey things, like a man is no more important than a rat or a worm. Perhaps that explains why ultra leftists like Hitler and Stalin did not care if millions of people died to achieve their vision of utopia. Well, some of us are not going sit idly by to let some two bit leftist from Chicago try to change America into some utopian vision of his.
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 12:17 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

It must have been somewhat like this, talking to people who were dead convinced the Commies were going to take over, 50 years ago. Probably the same people, in fact.

Cycloptichorn

The commies are still at it, cyclops, and if you don't believe in it, then wake up. If you favor commies, then admit it. You actually have in part, but not totally. You have actually admitted you like parts of Marxism and some other really screwey things, like a man is no more important than a rat or a worm. Perhaps that explains why ultra leftists like Hitler and Stalin did not care if millions of people died to achieve their vision of utopia. Well, some of us are not going sit idly by to let some two bit leftist from Chicago try to change America into some utopian vision of his.


Rolling Eyes

You sound like a broken record dude.

Tell me, how are 'the commies' still 'at it?'

Cycloptichorn.
okie
 
  0  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 12:17 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
He has only started, so this is only a start, but he wants to tell me how to run my own medical care. It seems to me that is no business of his and he should not try to make it his business.
okie
 
  0  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 12:18 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
You sound like a broken record dude.

Tell me, how are 'the commies' still 'at it?'

Cycloptichorn.

You are a broken record as well. So bug off with your leftist utopian policies, leave the rest of us alone, okay.
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Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 12:27 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

He has only started, so this is only a start, but he wants to tell me how to run my own medical care. It seems to me that is no business of his and he should not try to make it his business.


I don't believe he is actually telling you how to 'run your own medical care.' In any fashion. Actually, I believe that your situation won't change one bit under his plan. So how is he hurting your rights, again?

Quote:

You are a broken record as well. So bug off with your leftist utopian policies, leave the rest of us alone, okay.


No, sorry; not going to do that. Besides, I have no 'Utopian' policies to recommend; only ones which will improve our current situation. Though I understand that the problem for you is that you are not interested in any policy which doesn't improve YOUR personal situation.

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 12:28 pm
@okie,
Do you mean like Medicare? How much control does the government have over "your" Medicare, medical care?
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joefromchicago
 
  1  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 12:35 pm
@dyslexia,
dyslexia wrote:

I'd probably agree with Joe more if he didn't have reactionary-conservative tendencies.

I'm so reactionary, sometimes I take away my own freedoms.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 12:40 pm
@joefromchicago,
Laughing Laughing Laughing Mr. Green
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dyslexia
 
  1  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 12:53 pm
@joefromchicago,
joefromchicago wrote:

dyslexia wrote:

I'd probably agree with Joe more if he didn't have reactionary-conservative tendencies.

I'm so reactionary, sometimes I take away my own freedoms.
exactly.
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okie
 
  0  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 02:22 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Quote:

You are a broken record as well. So bug off with your leftist utopian policies, leave the rest of us alone, okay.


No, sorry; not going to do that. Besides, I have no 'Utopian' policies to recommend; only ones which will improve our current situation. Though I understand that the problem for you is that you are not interested in any policy which doesn't improve YOUR personal situation.

Cycloptichorn

I did not figure you would, because you care more about your idealogy than the freedom and liberty for all Americans.

I do not have a problem, it is you that has a problem, which is your desired government control over other people. Marx also thought he could improve everyone's personal situation. I am not interested in doing that, I am interested in that being my responsibility in an atmosphere of personal liberty, and I am also interested in everyone else having that same liberty. I cannot guarantee their happiness, no more than you can. Neither can Obama, regardless of what he thinks and what all of his blind followers and voters might think.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 02:40 pm
@okie,
okie, Which country that has universal health care are Marxist or have lost their freedoms? Please name one.

You have the bad habit of crying "wolf" about Obama, but have never provided one iota of evidence. Your inability to understand debating any issue is lost on reality and evidence in the world experience.

Please name one country that has implemented universal health care that is Marxist today?
djjd62
 
  1  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 02:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
oh we're pretty marxist up in here in canada, you know, with our conservative government and all
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 02:50 pm
@djjd62,
How much/many of your freedoms have you lost?
djjd62
 
  1  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 02:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
none that i'm aware of

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 11 Jan, 2010 03:18 pm
@djjd62,
Didn't think so, but we must make some things clear for people like okie who believes Obama is Marxist-leaning, and transforming our country into a socialist state.

It's because he doesn't understand definitions or the realities about the world at-large.

His fears are extreme and total nonsense.
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