Obama '08?

@teenyboone,

Yeah, that's what disappoints me about Obama the most. I rate people based on their ethics and honesty, and Obama continues to disappoint with his unkept promises.

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@cicerone imposter,

Another thing that's so disappointing is, I get it! I wonder if he thinks the stink coming from the actual crap he's selling, will get him over in 2012? It will, if Sarah Palin or Cheney runs. Odd, huh? I'd vote against, Stupid!

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@teenyboone,

What promises were unkept, and what crap has he pushed?

I think once a president is in office, he quickly learns that not all things promised are possible or wise.

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@Advocate,

It's the economy, jobs and health care. So okay, the Dems are dragging their feet on health care, the war rages on and Americans keep dying, but that's okay, huh? CI, just showed how many employees, Mrs. Obama has so I guess that's a lot of employment, huh?

No, I don't beleive that change comes overnight, but while Wall St. was bailed out, what happens to lost jobs? You see any on the horizon? While I am retired, I still care for those who have families to raise and keeping a roof over head too! While we're at it, I only voice MY opinion, which I am entitled to, so this will be the LAST response that I will respond to, that asks me a hypothetical question.

If you read the papers or watch the news, you'd know what I'm talking about so listen up posters, don't ask me any fecetious questions because I will turn on the IGNORE button! The nerve!

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@teenyboone,

teenyboone wrote:

CI:
I don't like a lot of things that Obama has done or hasn't done. Confused? I was until I realized he's a politician first and everything else, later. No one was as bad as Bush, but Obama ran on a lot of promises unkept.

Interesting. You are half right at least. I would add this comment, Bush was not a politician first, and that is precisely why he lost popularity. He did not moisten his finger and stick it in the air to see which way the wind was blowing before he did anything, instead he did what he believed was the right thing to do for the country based upon the information given him. Alot of people and the press do not like that, and so his popularity suffered, and what do we have now, we have a guy that got elected by telling people what they wanted to hear, not what is right. Obama is a guy that sticks his finger in the air and sees which way the wind is blowing. Sort of like Clinton.

So teeny, what are you complaining about? You voted for what you got, a politician full of rhetoric and empty promises, a guy short on experience and accomplishments and long on smooth talk. My comment to you is that you should have known this would happen. You now have a guy that blamed everything on Bush, including things like Katrina, when the fact is Bush had nothing to do with Katrina and in fact saved lives by telling the governor to make a decision that was her responsibility to make, evacuate the city. But you took the bait hook line and sinker from the smooth talker, as did everyone that thinks like you.

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@teenyboone,

Obama has only been in office about nine months. Give him a break. Regarding Michele's employees, check Snopes for the true story on this. It is just more libel from the right. Without a crystal ball, a president cannot be always correct. But I think he is doing well, mistakes and all. It is to his credit that he is not dogmatic as was Bush.

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@Advocate,

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It is to his credit that he is not dogmatic as was Bush.

Why? It is results that matter, not style. We could afford beauty pageant presidents during times of peace and prosperity, now nobody in their right mind cares about style.

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@okie,

That was precisely Bush's problem; he never listened to the experts, but let Cheney work him like a puppet. No brains.

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@okie,

you said:

Interesting. You are half right at least. I would add this comment, Bush was not a politician first, and that is precisely why he lost popularity. He did not moisten his finger and stick it in the air to see which way the wind was blowing before he did anything, instead he did what he believed was the right thing to do for the country based upon the information given him. Alot of people and the press do not like that, and so his popularity suffered, and what do we have now, we have a guy that got elected by telling people what they wanted to hear, not what is right. Obama is a guy that sticks his finger in the air and sees which way the wind is blowing. Sort of like Clinton.

I say:
Or anything else, for that matter! A big, fat, zero, playing a role like St. R.R. that you repugs revere, because you all feed at the trough of the lobbyists that are really running everything and everybody. Government of the people? I don't think so; more like the government of the lobbyists! Bush was no "rocket scientist" or even imagined himself one. No manners either when you embrace a female prime minister or "hold hands" girly-man like, with a shiek, but it is what it is, huh? All put on, by the thieving repugs!

This I do know; Obama looks a hell of a lot better than Bush EVER could! Perfect, no! At least he can take the criticism I and others who love him, can!
I got exactly what I voted for. A MAN who would like to set things straight, but you forget, he's only been IN office barely a year, now. People like YOU expect an overnight turnaround of 8 years of lying, stealing and deception by a "gang" in suits!

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@cicerone imposter,

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That was precisely Bush's problem; he never listened to the experts, but let Cheney work him like a puppet. No brains.

I read a bush interview when he was president and the interviewer asked him if he ever consulted his father for advice. Bush jr. flat-out said "no, the only father I consult is the one up above." (Paraphrased, but you get the idea)

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@Advocate,

My criticisms whether you like them or not are my own. I know as well as you, how long he's been in office. I don't walk in lockstep with anyone. I AM a Black American with history to slavery, so don't tell me what I'm supposed to think.
When searching for the true story on Black America, I had to take a college course, read little known books and rely on my parents to tell me just who the hell we are!

If I find fault with Barack Obama, it's because I find him naive in some areas; not all! He is not Jesus, so I don't expect any big miracles. He gets an A+ for intelligence and common sense, but we who put him there probably expect some BANG, for our vote!

The crap that passes for responses are just that; crap! I agree with some and like you realize it WILL take a miracle to straighten out just SOME of what Bush & Cheney brought upon a country with a modicum of respect, but when they left office and not a minute too soon, I breathed a sigh of relief!

To continue domestic spying, holding of people deemed "enemy combatents" in secret jails and at Gitmo are against everything I believe in. Being Black does NOT make me an expert in deprivation that whites take for granted, it shows that in America, where many believe the lies we tell others while still holding native Americans on reservations is apalling and I identify with them and with my own people, that we finally thought, "our time has come"! Oh, really?

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@okie,

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Interesting. You are half right at least. I would add this comment, Bush was not a politician first, and that is precisely why he lost popularity. He did not moisten his finger and stick it in the air to see which way the wind was blowing before he did anything, instead he did what he believed was the right thing to do for the country based upon the information given him. Alot of people and the press do not like that, and so his popularity suffered, and what do we have now, we have a guy that got elected by telling people what they wanted to hear, not what is right. Obama is a guy that sticks his finger in the air and sees which way the wind is blowing. Sort of like Clinton.

True, Bush was not a politician first, he was a failed business man who got bailed out everytime and even made some money at other peoples expense. He got into Harvard and Yale because of the family name, he side stepped the military, he went into the oil business, where he failed, the sports business where he had a losing team and franchise, etc.

He didn't put his finger to the wind because of his narcisism and self-absorbtion.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

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It is to his credit that he is not dogmatic as was Bush.

Why? It is results that matter, not style. We could afford beauty pageant presidents during times of peace and prosperity, now nobody in their right mind cares about style.

It is the results that count, and Bush's were awful. Regarding my comment, Bush would proudly slog on with his terrible policies, and the country may not ever recover from them.

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@teenyboone,

This board is all about people telling others what to think. I suggest you get away from your race and background and concentrate on the issues at hand. I had a rough beginning in life, but it would bore others, and be irrelevant, for me to dwell on it.

It does seem that, to a degree, you are falling for the right's persistent denigration of Obama. The vast majority of his decisions, I think, have been appropriate. That doesn't mean they all will pan out. We can't ask for more. Keep in mind that he walked into an unprecedented mess. Just thank your lucky stars that the likes of McCain and Palin are not in charge.

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@Advocate,

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This board is all about people telling others what to think. I suggest you get away from your race and background and concentrate on the issues at hand. I had a rough beginning in life, but it would bore others, and be irrelevant, for me to dwell on it.

I happen to think what teeny posts is relevant. What a relief to actually have a black person expressing it full on. And, it sure beats the postings about relationships where people fight over shower curtains and then feel compelled to come here to talk about it.

It's true, everyone's a freakin' expert on Able2Know, but teeny's the real thing-- smart and to the point, she's no shrinking violet, thank goodness.

One more thing-- I voted for Obama, I am, of course, grateful for no McCain or Palin. Nonetheless, I'll always be entitled to my opinions about whether or not Obama is doing a good job. I'm not a an automaton who blindly follow him, if he's messing up we'll say so-- this does not put me under the sway of the Fox or the right wing of the republicans.

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@Gala,

Gala wrote:

He didn't put his finger to the wind because of his narcisism and self-absorbtion.

That is Obama when you talk about narcisism, times 10.

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@Gala,

I enjoy reading Teeny, but find her no Einstein. But neither am I. But this thread is about Obama, on whom we should concentrate. Perhaps Teeny and we should discuss her race on some other thread.

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@teenyboone,

teenyboone wrote:

I got exactly what I voted for. A MAN who would like to set things straight, but you forget, he's only been IN office barely a year, now. People like YOU expect an overnight turnaround of 8 years of lying, stealing and deception by a "gang" in suits!

I did not expect anything positive. I hoped for something positive, but I did not expect it. What I expected was a smooth talker promising everything that can deliver nothing except more attempts at bigger government to rule our lives, because he is a man that thinks America was and is a rotten place and he would like to institute more Marxist type policies that he has affections for buried in his head and heart but did not have the honesty to tell us. In short, he is a phony that did not tell us the truth when campaigning, but instead ran on slogans to hide his true agenda. And he also ran on promises of no lobbyists and open and honest government, but then set about to appoint some of the most corrupt and radical personalities to government that we have ever seen, including a tax cheat to head the IRS, and also began to spend more money than any president in history in an effort to break the government so that he can remake it to his liking.

In short, nothing will improve until we vote these radicals and losers out of office. To do that, we will need people like you to admit you were suckered big time for a guy that neither loves America nor wants to do anything reasonable and responsible to fix anything. He is instead focused on building a bigger more powerful and Marxonian government that will wreck the country if enough people do not wake up to the reality of who he is and what he is trying to do.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

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He is instead focused on building a bigger more powerful and Marxonian government that will wreck the country if enough people do not wake up to the reality of who he is and what he is trying to do.

okie doesn't understand definitions or how our country's economy operates, because his imagination always runs away with extremes that only he can see!

What a dork!

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Okie, I'm not aware that any of the Marx brothers invested any effort towards a Marxonian government. Perhaps I missed a line in Night at the Opera or Duck Soup.

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