Obama '08?

@okie,

as opposed to criminals and terrorists like Bush and Cheney. Where were you when the republicans were trying to take away our freedoms during the Bush administration. this statement can be proved, yours is alligations that liers have stated so often they have taken on the aura of truth without proof.

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More on the radicals. When I think I knew about most of them, more pop up, now this Lloyd guy that loves Chavez revolution and likes the idea of a state run media, apparently, and of course shut down the opposition most likely. All in the name of "diversity?"

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@okie,

I think Beck is starting to lean left, okie.

you better keep a closer watch on him...

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@okie,

Well, just imagine how much worse the situation would be under McCain....

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@okie,

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you are a McCarthy fan.

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@okie,

So, basically he took the use of the word "incredible" by the FCC guy and extrapolated that to "I love the Chavez revolution and I believe in state controlled media." Even though the beginning of the video shows him talking about how state controlled media facilitated the Rwandan genocide. That about right?

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@old europe,

Well oe, just proof again that independent thinkers don't always think alike. I disagree totally and absolutely with that. McCain would not be my idea of a perfect conservative, but we would be immensely better off now than with what we have. At least McCain is not a radical, and I don't think the whitehouse would be inhabited with radicals for czars and advisors.

And when was that video made, the date? Somehow I think he would not agree with that now? And voting for Hillary over McCain, come on, that is not a wise choice for a conservative. Some conservatives however think that it is better to have a Democrat screw things up, so that the people can see it and correct the situation, let the pendulum swing back next election cycle, vs a Republican screw things up and then have the Republicans suffer even more at the ballot box in future elections. I think an argument can be made that a politician claiming to further Republican ideals, if that politician does not in practice, it actually does more damage to the Republican cause. I think it depends upon extent or divergence of how far that politician goes from the desired course as envisioned by conservatives.

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@FreeDuck,

FreeDuck wrote:

So, basically he took the use of the word "incredible" by the FCC guy and extrapolated that to "I love the Chavez revolution and I believe in state controlled media." Even though the beginning of the video shows him talking about how state controlled media facilitated the Rwandan genocide. That about right?

Nice apology or twist of the video, Duck. I got from the video that he does indeed love the Chavez revolution, as he views him as wresting control of the one sided monopoly on the press from the elite, property owners, the rich, etc. in Venezuela. Thats why Chavez hates capitalism, and that is why Obama and most of his appointees criticize profits and aspects of capitalism, they really don't like capitalism although they are not coming out with their complete feelings yet, that is where they sit philisophically. Basically, the free market is construed in his mind as a monopoly, and I think that is how he views players in the tv and radio business, talk radio, Fox News, etc. here in this country. That is the reason for the trojan horse term "diversity." It is a term used to promote a government monopoly to promote diversity and fairness. You see, liberals believe they are the ultimate fair and just voice on anything. I don't know if you think that way totally, but maybe?

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@okie,

okie wrote:

And when was that video made, the date? Somehow I think he would not agree with that now?

It's a video of a very recent interview with Katy Couric, referencing his also recent Time magazine cover.

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@FreeDuck,

Okay. I still disagree anyway. I understand his reasoning I think, as I summarized in previous post. To explain with an analogy, I don't think we can afford to take our car to the worst mechanic in town to literally destroy the car, all in the interests of trying to convince our family we should switch mechanics. By that time, the car might be beyond repair.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Nice apology or twist of the video, Duck.

What exactly did he say about the Chavez revolution other than it was "incredible"?

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I got from the video that he does indeed love the Chavez revolution, as he views him as wresting control of the one sided monopoly on the press from the elite, property owners, the rich, etc. in Venezuela.

And you got that from what? He didn't express personal feelings about it at all. It's simply a factual description -- it was the property owners who objected to the revolution, of course, and they were backed by the US. So?

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Basically, the free market is construed in his mind as a monopoly, and I think that is how he views players in the tv and radio business, talk radio, Fox News, etc. here in this country. That is the reason for the trojan horse term "diversity." It is a term used to promote a government monopoly to promote diversity and fairness. You see, liberals believe they are the ultimate fair and just voice on anything. I don't know if you think that way totally, but maybe?

I think you are connecting dots from different pages. The guy was in the middle of, what, an interview? An answer to a question? You don't know what the context was. And nowhere did he express that he was advocating for something. Do you even know where he was or who he was talking to?

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@old europe,

Thanks for posting that, oe. I went and found the unedited interview and there are lots of good parts. My favorite is watching him dodge the question "what is white culture"?

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/30983/

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@FreeDuck,

Face it Duck, the administration is infested with radicals, Marxists, ex- terrorists, etc. The evidence is clear. It took me a while to want to have to really realize this could be happening, but it is. I can't believe our beloved country has gotten to this point so fast. Our only hope is the next election.

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@FreeDuck,

Long video, I am about 1/2 through. The white culture is probably a twisted question from a liberal mind, to try to construe Beck. Attack the messenger, that is the methods of liberals. Everything he has said so far makes pretty good sense, and should to virltually everyone, its about being responsible citizens and having responsible government.

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@okie,

I just heard the white culture discussion, and Beck was totally reasonable. Beck pointed out the Black Liberation Theology idea, which is a troubling aspect of just what prism that Obama uses to look at issues. The discussion was basically a Couric manufactured attempt to color Beck, and it was an utter failure. Maybe Couric was trying to transfer her feelings, I don't know? I think liberals look at groups because they view the world as a member of some group, race, whatever. Becks view I believe is similar to mine, we live as individuals, not race or whatever.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

I just heard the white culture discussion, and Beck was totally reasonable. Beck pointed out the Black Liberation Theology idea, which is a troubling aspect of just what prism that Obama uses to look at issues. The discussion was basically a Couric manufactured attempt to color Beck, and it was an utter failure. Maybe Couric was trying to transfer her feelings, I don't know? I think liberals look at groups because they view the world as a member of some group, race, whatever. Becks view I believe is similar to mine, we live as individuals, not race or whatever.

Interesting then that Beck stated that Obama 'hates white culture.' Why would he say that, if he doesn't believe such a thing exists?

Cycloptichorn

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Okay. I still disagree anyway. I understand his reasoning I think, as I summarized in previous post. To explain with an analogy, I don't think we can afford to take our car to the worst mechanic in town to literally destroy the car, all in the interests of trying to convince our family we should switch mechanics. By that time, the car might be beyond repair.

Asserting it with no evidence doesn't make it so, okie. The fact is that nothing that guy said was radical. I think Beck has just gotten overconfident on this one.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

I just heard the white culture discussion, and Beck was totally reasonable. Beck pointed out the Black Liberation Theology idea, which is a troubling aspect of just what prism that Obama uses to look at issues. The discussion was basically a Couric manufactured attempt to color Beck, and it was an utter failure. Maybe Couric was trying to transfer her feelings, I don't know? I think liberals look at groups because they view the world as a member of some group, race, whatever. Becks view I believe is similar to mine, we live as individuals, not race or whatever.

Yes, that must be his view. Hence is invention of "the white culture". Face it okie, Beck's being hoist by his own petard on that one. He spends his days grabbing sound bytes and smearing people as radicals based on a word or two, taken out of context. Here, he gets to see how it feels to be on the receiving end. What he basically admitted is that he says **** without thinking and doesn't know what it meant or didn't want to admit what it meant to him.

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@Cycloptichorn,

Criminy, are you that dense? Its not as if Beck invented anything. Black Liberation Theology believes there is a white culture, that is the whole point, and it is bad according to that theology, and which Obama's church is founded upon. It isn't Becks fault that Black Liberation Theology exists or that it believes what it believes.

Quit inventing stuff.

I am still waiting for an apology for an outlandish, sick, and totally ridiculous accusation.

P.S. It was Wright, Obama's friend, that said somebody deserved to die, and it was the people in the towers. If you want to accuse somebody of wanting assassination, maybe you need to talk to Wright.

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@okie,

Beck simply dodged the question with:

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"I can't think of a way to answer that that isn't a trap."

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There is a GOP preacher who prayed for Obama's death and ironically the next day a guy showed up at Obama's speech with a gun who listened to his speech the day before.

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Chris Broughton, the man who brought an assault rifle and a handgun to the Obama event in Arizona last week, attended a fiery anti-Obama sermon the day before the event, in which Pastor Steven Anderson said he was going to "pray for Barack Obama to die and go to hell", Anderson confirmed to TPMmuckraker today.

Anderson also said Broughton had informed the pastor about his planned show of arms-bearing, but "he planned out the AR15 thing long before he heard that sermon," delivered Sunday August 16 at the fundamentalist Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, AZ.

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In unrelated news but still sort of troubling to the signs of the times; (and of course it has to be in kentucky for something so backward but horrible all the same)

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Feds probe US Census worker hanging in Kentucky

When Bill Sparkman told retired trooper Gilbert Acciardo that he was going door-to-door collecting census data in rural Kentucky, the former cop drawing on years of experience warned: "Be careful."

The 51-year-old Sparkman was found hanged from a tree near a Kentucky cemetery and had the word "fed" scrawled on his chest, a law enforcement official said Wednesday, and the FBI is investigating whether he was a victim of anti-government sentiment.

"Even though he was with the Census Bureau, sometimes people can view someone with any government agency as 'the government.' I just was afraid that he might meet the wrong character along the way up there," said Acciardo, who directs an after-school program at an elementary school where Sparkman was a frequent substitute teacher.

The Census Bureau has suspended door-to-door interviews in rural Clay County, where the body was found, until the investigation is complete, an official said.

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