Obama '08?

@okie,

Another accusation without the crimes against ACORN.

There are a multitude of real evidence against the Bush crime gang on illegal wiretaps, torture, and firing of district judges based on political affiliation.

All conservatives do is create fears about something without the evidence.

Red alert, anyone? WMDs anyone? Terrorist attack any moment now, anyone?

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@okie,

You're probably an expert at cheating, because you seem to know how to.

How do they count illegals as citizens? Do you have a solution to this problem no matter who does the counting?

You say "there's a million ways to cheat." Name me a dozen?

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@georgeob1,

dear Georgeob, You must realize i would be a perfect benevolent dictator.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

Another accusation without the crimes against ACORN.

There are a multitude of real evidence against the Bush crime gang on illegal wiretaps, torture, and firing of district judges based on political affiliation.

All conservatives do is create fears about something without the evidence.

Red alert, anyone? WMDs anyone? Terrorist attack any moment now, anyone?

the rnc/gop/wtf keep recycling the same stuff over and over. it is an obvious tactic in an overall strategy to continuously run out the clock.

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@dyslexia,

Perhaps.... until Diane fell asleep. Then what?

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@DontTreadOnMe,

DontTreadOnMe wrote:

the rnc/gop/wtf keep recycling the same stuff over and over. it is an obvious tactic in an overall strategy to continuously run out the clock.

DTOM, I propose something here that perhaps we could agree upon. I think it all boils down to trust.

So who do we trust? I don't the Democrats. They are totally corrupt. ci sees it the other way, he thinks Bush was a low down liar and so on and so forth. I forgot though that ci has also called Obama a liar. I do think Bush was not perfect, but a fairly decent and fairly honest man, compared to Obama. I would not buy a used car from Obama, no way. The rnc is not perfect, far from it, but I do think that they have higher ideals than the Dems. Hey, Saul Alinsky said the end justifies the mean, there is absolutely no moral obligation to live up to at all, its all about getting what you want. Thats Obama to a tee.

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@okie,

the trust part, yeah. i think that is really what causes a person to vote for this guy or that guy.

to be honest though, i'd have a hard time saying which has higher ideals. both have good and bad ideas. both have good points and flaws.

at today's milestone, i'd have to say that all things being equal the government is just as quagmired under obama as it has been under the last 3 or 4.

it's starting to bug..

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@DontTreadOnMe,

I actually think that the less congress does, if its bad legislation, its better to have it all quagmired. I would rather they actually go home for longer times and leave us alone. Have them actually go make a living some other way and they might actually learn something. And make it illegal for them to practice law, that would help too.

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"Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove. That’s the highest level of Strong Disapproval yet recorded for this President and it gives Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -10 "

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

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@okie,

prolly the 42 percent that didn't, wouldn't and just couldn't ever vote for him.

that part isn't too surprising. honestly, i think that he had such a drastically high approval at the start was because there just that many people happy to be rid of dubya.

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@okie,

okie, Quit using Ras and use some other polling company which will show a better rating for Obama. All of them.

According to Gallup poll, Obama still enjoys a 50% approval rating.

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@DontTreadOnMe,

DontTreadOnMe wrote:

prolly the 42 percent that didn't, wouldn't and just couldn't ever vote for him.

that part isn't too surprising. honestly, i think that he had such a drastically high approval at the start was because there just that many people happy to be rid of dubya.

Actually at the time he entered office, that percentage was only about 15%. The number represents a growing percentage of people that are becoming increasingly galvanized in their distrust and opposition to him. Here is the graph:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_index_graphics/august_2009/obama_index_august_30_2009/243805-1-eng-US/obama_index_august_30_2009.jpg

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

okie, Quit using Ras and use some other polling company which will show a better rating for Obama. All of them.

According to Gallup poll, Obama still enjoys a 50% approval rating.

50% is getting pretty low for Gallup. It has always run higher than Rasmussen. Oh, Rasmussen has him down to 47% approval for likely voters. I think these numbers for Obama are lower than they were for Bush at the same point in his presidency.

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@okie,

okie's playing games again; he shows a Ras graph that shows Obama at 42%, and now he claims Obama's rating is 47%. You do know how to play with numbers, don't you, okie? LOL

High for Gallup? Please explain.

Also, GWBush's rating fell to below 30% at the end of his presidency, and only two other presidents met that "goal." LOL

http://online.wsj.com/media/info-presapp0605-all.gif

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

okie's playing games again; he shows a Ras graph that shows Obama at 42%, and now he claims Obama's rating is 47%. You do know how to play with numbers, don't you, okie? LOL

Come on ci, are you that dumb? These are two different numbers. 42% strongly disapprove of him, while 47% at least somewhat approve of him.

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High for Gallup? Please explain.

I said low for Gallup. Hasn't Gallup always had him higher than that? I think he continues to sink, and I think 50% is pretty low for Gallup.

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Also, GWBush's rating fell to below 30% at the end of his presidency, and only two other presidents met that "goal." LOL

Obama has plenty of time to beat Bush, he has a good start. The graph you post indicates Bush was considerably higher than Obama is now at the same point in his presidency. Also, if Bush had a media supporting him like Obama has, he would still be at 60% probably. With the way they bashed him, I think 30% was pretty darn good.

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@okie,

Yes, Obama has "plenty of time," but you've already put your bet on the table that he's a failure. How can you do that? Your crystal ball is broken; Obama is still only in his first year in office. That's less than 17% of his term, and you've already arrived at a conclusion that he's a failure.

You're dumber than most including grade school children. That you are an older adult speaks volumes about your immaturity.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

You're dumber than most including grade school children. That you are an older adult speaks volumes about your immaturity.

Very funny, ci. Go to bed and relax, thats what I am about to do.

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Obama's approval ratings is slightly lower than Bush's was at around the same time, however, Bush did just pass a huge tax cut which should have boosted his approval rating up more than it did. As far as media, at first the media was pro-Obama since it was a big deal having the first multi-racial president and all, but since he actually started pushing his agenda, he has gotten no pass at all with the press and it would be hard to prove otherwise.

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TPM is reporting that Obama's ratings have reached a new low, 50%.

An August 16-19 2001 Gallup poll showed Bush's approval rating at 57% -- and he had just passed a tax cut (gave money away). Only 7% higher than Obama's is now and Obama has faced the worse economy since the great depression, had two wars to contend with and he's battling the nation over reforming health care - very personal and effects ALL Americans.

Would be nice if these little facts would also be reported when talking about Obama's ratings.

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@revel,

I think it's also safe to say that Bush enjoyed a much easier job for the first 9 months.

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@FreeDuck,

Very true. Bush dident have to follow 8 years of Bush screw ups.

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