dyslexia
 
  1  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 01:41 pm
@mysteryman,
yeah so in the scheme of things important, what's it all mean alfie? I'm not sure but I think that I saw Obama one day when his socks didn't match and he said he liked bowling as much as b-ball.
mysteryman
 
  1  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 01:46 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I'm not making a big thing out of it at all.
I was simply showing that even Obama knowingly tells lies, no matter what his supporters think.
I also knew that people like you would try to defend him by attacking me.

So, if you can accept one lie told by him, how many others will you willingly swallow?
mysteryman
 
  1  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 01:46 pm
@dyslexia,
Quote:
he said he liked bowling as much as b-ball.


Now thats just weird on his part.
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cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 01:47 pm
@mysteryman,
I pointed out his lying that has more meaning than your red sox-white sox issues.
mysteryman
 
  0  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 01:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
What red sox-white sox issue are you talking about?

I'm not a big fan of either team.
dyslexia
 
  1  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 02:57 pm
@mysteryman,
dys says-"it's really hot here today"
mm says "that's a lie, it's really hot in Baghdad, here's the facts to prove I'm right;
weather.com says it 112 in Baghdad, 107 in Cairo, 109 in Mecca, it's only 93 in Albuquerque."
dys says "yeah ok I'm an intentional liar"
mysteryman
 
  0  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 03:00 pm
@dyslexia,
Only if you said it was hotter in Albuquerque then it was in most of the world.

Thats what Obama claimed, when he said that the US was one of the biggest Muslim countries.
dyslexia
 
  1  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 03:05 pm
@mysteryman,
Quote:
was one of[/quote, please discern the meanings of "nominal" vs "operation" definitions. ie "it's damn hot today " vs " it's 117 degrees F today"
dyslexia
 
  1  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 03:13 pm
@dyslexia,
well i certainly screwed up that post.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Tue 21 Jul, 2009 03:15 pm
@dyslexia,
mm's issues that he shares on a2k and seems to take great pleasure in are all nonsense and unimportant "garbage."

Why people even bother responding is a mystery.
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parados
 
  0  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 03:17 pm
@mysteryman,
Well, if we use that standard MM. Then I guess we have to assume that the CIA factbook intentionally told a lie.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2008-08-05-muslim-jew-census_N.htm
Quote:
But lead researcher Ihsan Bagby, now associate professor of Islamic studies at the University of Kentucky-Lexington, says the 6 million figure actually was a "ballpark estimate." Bagby says he "extrapolated" the total from the 1.8 million adults counted in attendance by imams and mosque leaders.


http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_islam_usa.html
Quote:
The study concludes that the best estimate of Muslims in the United States is 2.8 million at most, compared to the 6 million figure used by many researchers and Muslim organizations. Muslim leaders said the report was an attempt to undercut their influence.


Quote:
Pew Research Center, 2007: The total Muslim American population is estimated at 2.35 million, based on data from this survey and available Census Bureau data on immigrants’ nativity and nationality.


So, if we accept one lie repeated by you MM, how many others do you expect us to willingly swallow?
cicerone imposter
 
  0  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 04:05 pm
@parados,
parados, Obama did exaggerate the Muslim population of the US as one of the biggest. However, in the general scheme of things, that "lie" can't even be compared to the doozies told by GW Bush that actually affected our country in negative ways. "We don't torture." "We get a court order to wiretap." "Our country will see the biggest reconstruction project." - told from Jackson Square in New Orleans after Katrina.

Now compare that with "Our country (the US) has one of the biggest Muslim population."

For most fair-minded, rational, people. There's no comparison.

The actual truth of the matter was taken from a web site which states:
Quote:
So Obama is trying to make a point that the United States is in touch with the Muslim world because it has a substantial Muslim population. But he dramatically overreaches by saying the United States would be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world. Ranking 58 out of the world's 60 most populous Muslim nations does not a large Muslim country make. Indeed, by even the most generous estimate we found of 8 million, the United States still ranks 29 out of 60. As a result, we give Obama a Pants on Fire.


Bush really did put a whole country on fire, and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Only conservatives-MACs try to make it a big deal about Obama's statement.
DontTreadOnMe
 
  2  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 05:00 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

parados, Obama did exaggerate the Muslim population of the US as one of the biggest.


maybe he was counting iraq. god knows we must own it by now...
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 05:07 pm
@DontTreadOnMe,
That's a view I hadn't thought of, but you might be spot on!
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Tue 21 Jul, 2009 07:59 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Can't hide the federal budget for very long. It'll become common knowledge very soon, and many will inspect it with a fine tooth comb!

BTW, have you ever visited Obama's web site that addresses most of the major issues of our day? I believe "transparancy" is in the eye of the beholder. We're still learning stuff about Bush's administration, and he's been gone from the white house for over six months! I guess we can call that "the great wall of secrecy!"


You're right that no one can hide the federal budget for very long, but the point is that the Obama Administration is attempting to do so while it is also pressing for immediate action on healthcare reform and Cap & Trade.

You don't see a connection?

Did Obama promise us the most transparent administration since the prior one?

I don't think so.

Reference to the Bush administrations' flaws, real or imagined, is intentional distraction.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 08:03 pm
@mysteryman,
mysteryman wrote:

I'm not making a big thing out of it at all.
I was simply showing that even Obama knowingly tells lies, no matter what his supporters think.
I also knew that people like you would try to defend him by attacking me.

So, if you can accept one lie told by him, how many others will you willingly swallow?


I think your question was clearly answered.
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okie
 
  0  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 08:32 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

Reference to the Bush administrations' flaws, real or imagined, is intentional distraction.

In case you are wondering, its mostly imagined, or at least vastly exaggerated.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 09:15 pm
@okie,
okie still can't see all the damage done by Bush's lies, but that's to be expected from the dunce on a2k who rarely, if ever, gets anything right.

From bushlies:
Quote:

The Presidency of George W. Bush has come to a close. History will conclude that the defining element of his administration was not Iraq or tax cuts, but lies and contempt for the democratic process. We are still discovering the extent of the lies, such as the discovery that the President ordered the CIA to fabricate evidence to support a war against Iraq and suppress evidence that Iraq did not possess weapons of mass destruction or that the NSA targeted journalists and monitored their communications (the NSA was a frequent visitor to this site as well). Which is why I believe Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (of the great state of Rhode Island) hit the nail on the head when he said:

the irresponsibility and mismanagement of this Administration will go down in our history as among the darkest moments our government has witnessed. It rots the very fiber of democracy when our government is put to these uses. We do not yet know all the damage that has been done.

It is precisely because of the fact that we do not know the damage that has been done that Nicholas Kristof is right in calling for a Truth Commission.

For six years, I have attempted to catalog the countless lies and deceits of this administration (albeit sporadically and only on a high level after the 2004 election) and have been appalled to find what I thought would be a limited endeavor is something that far exceeds the ability of one person or organization to document.

The Declaration of Independence provides that “Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.” History will long remember that during the Bush era, the White House usurped that power by routinely thwarting the people’s ability to exercise informed consent as detailed on this site’s many pages.


This URL outlines Bush's biggest ten lies: http://www.bushlies.net/

okie claims that "it's mostly imagined, or at least vastly exaggerated."

I want to see him show us they are "mostly imagined or vastly exaggerated?" Show us proof/evidence okie; not your inane personal opinion worth less then your own ****.

Spoken from the king of ignorance, okie, who believes his opinion has merit.
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okie
 
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Tue 21 Jul, 2009 09:30 pm
Oooh, this is sure to get the extreme leftists into a big tizzy, accusing me of stupidity, ignorance, and virtual insanity. I am going to post this anyway, because I have been sensing nervousness in the ranks, a jittery unsettled feeling among even Obama's supporters, that maybe they were indeed wrong about him. And I think some of his supporters may be suspicioning something is beginning to smell to high heaven with this administration, but are not yet voicing it any or much. The point here is that the guy may in fact have a disorder referred to as NPD or Narcissistic Personality Disorder. This possibility is rearing its ugly head because as he encounters more opposition, the guy is actually becoming more demanding, and angry. Read the following, it is interesting, and at least deserves consideration as a very real possibility, at least I believe Obama has at least a mild case of this disorder, but the magnitude of it is yet to be determined. I do think we do have a very troubling personality in the White House, which many of us seriously wonder how ugly this could become before the 4 year term is over.

This was actually written in September of 2008, but recent events and Obama's behavior tends to get my attention a little more in regard to this. Obama has made some very unrealistic moves and demands, almost as if he resides in some imaginary place in his mind, unconnected to reality. Many Dems have cowtowed to the guy up to this point, even intimidated by him, but increasingly, perhaps a few more are beginning to dig in their heels, and Republicans are becoming much more vocal.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2094423/posts

"The 2008 presidential election in America is the most crucial election in this country's history, not because the issues are that critical but because of Sen. Barack Obama. The Democratic presidential candidate's language, posture and demeanor suggest that he may suffer from narcissistic personality disorder, or NPD. NPD is a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration and a lack of empathy. The following are some of the symptoms of NPD that can be seen in Sen. Obama:

He subtly misrepresents facts, opportunistically shifts positions, ignores data that conflict with his fantasy world, is overly confident and acts presidential despite commensurate merits and his modest life achievements, considers himself above the law, talks about himself in the third person, has a messianic vision of himself and his "mission," displays false modesty while often evincing haughtiness, sublimates aggression, holds grudges and behaves as an eternal adolescent. These are narcissistic traits as seen in Sen. Obama by Dr. Sam Vaknin. The author of "The Malignant Self Love," Vaknin states, "Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist."

NPD is the prime disorder experienced by all the madmen of history " from Hitler to Stalin, Mao, Kim, Pol Pot, Osama, Khomeini, Saddam and Idi Amin. These men wreaked havoc and killed millions. They looked normal. Few suspected their insanity until it was too late.

Obama shares something else with these infamous narcissists: a chaotic childhood. One determining factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse, such as the neglecting of his or her emotional needs.

Pathological narcissism is not run-of-the-mill narcissism " someone with a hedonistic or self-centered sense of self " but rather someone with a very weak sense of self. A child who feels inferior, due to real or perceived social rejection, will try to compensate his feeling of inferiority..."

more at:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76552

dyslexia
 
  3  
Tue 21 Jul, 2009 09:52 pm
@okie,
well we now have at least some explanation of okie's rationality. he's a freeper.
 

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