Obama '08?

i think obama is doing pretty good.

@parados,

From a budget/accounting perspective, their FICA money is going into a trust for Medicare/SS, NOT the general fund.

The government is placing IOU's in that trust, in place of real dollars, but their money is NOT officially going into the general fund, it's going into the trust.

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@DontTreadOnMe,

doing pretty good at running this country into the ground.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

At least the job loss trend looks promising for now.

Growing numbers of unemployed citizens looks like a good trend to you?

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It is truly disgusting how the Reps in congress are playing politics with the Iranian discord. O is playing the situation perfectly, which doesn't allow the Iranian hardliners to point to undue USA inteference.

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@Advocate,

It is truly disgusting what Obama is doing to this country.

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It is interesting that, during the presidential campaign, both Hillary Clinton and John McCain criticized Obama for having slim and none foreign policy experience. So he's in office for six months, gives one speech on foreign policy in Cairo and suddenly the world changes. Lebanon has an election, eliminating the Hezbollah as a political force and Iran has what is looking like a revolution.
Not bad for a guy who only reached out with an olive branch - to talk.
My guess is that these moves not only will pay off in democracies, emerging from unstable and oppressive governments, but will benefit countries like Israel, as well, since democracies don't drop nuclear bombs, just because they can.
Ask the neocons how many countries swallowed the American brand of democracy in his eight years.
And, oh, yes, who was it who sang "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"?
The world is, indeed, changing. Yes, we can....

--Len Levine

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@Advocate,

Obama's lack of foreign policy experience is making the country weaker and more vulnerable by the day.

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@Advocate,

So this mysterious "Len Levine" gives Obama credit for an Iranian revolution that hasn't happened yet and the current unrest had absolutely nothing to do with Obama. And he gives Obama credit for 'eliminating Hezbollah as a political force' in Lebanon', which by the way, did not happen. It is true that Hezbollah was unsuccessful in achieving a majority in Lebanon's government recently, but they were unsuccessful in achieving that well before Obama had anything to say re foreign policy. Hezbollah is still suffiently a presence in Lebanon and in the government, however, that the leaders are urging that people not annoy them.

The only thing I can see that Obama has accomplished in the Middle East is to make Israel very nervous.

I suppose many think that is a terrific thing though.

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@H2O MAN,

It's the slow-down in job loss, dummy!

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@cicerone imposter,

There is no slow down in job losses, unemployment is on the rise!

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

Obama's lack of foreign policy experience is making the country weaker and more vulnerable by the day.

Thanks to Reagan, we may have a chance at shooting down a North Korean missile headed for Hawaii.

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@parados,

parados wrote:

What do I need to back up? I posted the link that shows income tax levels and the exemptions and deductions. What are you saying? You can't follow the link?

I am pointing out that the claims of "40% don't pay taxes" are not correct since people that don't pay income tax would still pay FICA because that is based on gross income and not taxable income. Yes, some people that pay FICA do get tax credits to offset what they paid in FICA. There is no evidence that 40% of the families in the US get such credits and therefor pay no taxes.

But social security and medicare was an insurance fund, not a typical tax. I know its called a tax, but the so-called tax is tied to a benefit that we receive at retirement age. A typical tax would not do that, it simply disappears into a slush fund to maintain government functions. Anything the government collects can be called a tax, but it was never supposed to be used for other expenditures, besides retirement and medical care in old age.

Therefore, comparing or grouping FICA with the income tax is therefore a pretty dishonest exercise that you attempt, Parados.

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@H2O MAN,

You're an idiot! 600,000 down to 350,000 is a slow-down in job loss.
That you could even consider it stopping job loss in one month and turn it around into positive job numbers show you are one of the most ignorant posters on a2k.

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@cicerone imposter,

I do believe cice girl's pin head is going to explode!!!

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

There is no slow down in job losses, unemployment is on the rise!

There is a slight decline in new unemployment insurance claims recently though more than a half million new claims continue to be filed each month. There is no indication that the number of those drawing older claims has decreased, however. And many who have exhausted their benefits are apparently signing up for welfare:

Quote:

JUNE 22, 2009
Numbers On Welfare See Sharp Increase
By SARA MURRAY

Welfare rolls, which were slow to rise and actually fell in many states early in the recession, now are climbing across the country for the first time since President Bill Clinton signed legislation pledging "to end welfare as we know it" more than a decade ago.

Twenty-three of the 30 largest states, which account for more than 88% of the nation's total population, see welfare caseloads above year-ago levels, according to a survey conducted by The Wall Street Journal and the National Conference of State Legislatures. As more people run out of unemployment compensation, many are turning to welfare as a stopgap.

MORE HERE:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124562449457235503.html

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From BLS:

Quote:

Industry Payroll Employment (Establishment Survey Data)
Total nonfarm payroll employment declined by 345,000 in May to 132.2 million. The decline was about half of the average monthly job loss for the prior 6 months (-643,000). Since the recession began in December 2007, payroll employment has fallen by 6.0 million. In May, job losses continued to be widespread across major industry sectors. Steep job losses continued in manufacturing, while the rate of decline moderated in several industries, including construction, professional and business services, and retail trade.

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@Advocate,

Quote:

And, oh, yes, who was it who sang "Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"?

Vince Vance and the Valiants, during the Iranian Hostage Crisis of the 1980's.

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Translation of today's press conference by Obama:

Quote:

Tuesday, June 23, 2009
Obama Press Conference
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Obama: Ok I want to say at the outset that of course I condemn the psychotics beating protestors in Iran and there is a retrograde group of knuckleheads who want to claim the US is interfering in the Iran and inciting violence and seize their country and overthrow their government - I am talking of course about the Republican party

Now I also want to talk about something equally controversial - windows and windmills - let me give a shout out to Waxman and Dingell and that guy on the agricultural committee

AG guy: woo hoo that’s me

Obama: and thirdly of course I want to talk about health care and how it can be free if we just stop giving out those free pens to doctors and lollipops for ever child?? I don’t ******* think so!

Now I know many Americans are happy that they have any health insurance at all, but you should know eventually health care costs will exceed the entire federal budget and then the sun will go nova and swallow up the earth

Q: will you still talk to Iran what with all the killing?

Obama: well sure it looks bad but I don't hate the Persians or their wacky religion all I want is for them to pull their godamm heads out of their asses

Nico Suave!

Nico: i have a question from a genuine Iranian - when do plan on betraying the brave Iranians?

Obama: whoa hold on there Nico - I didn't observe the election and it's not for the U.S. to say who won

Nico: awwwww

Obama: but look if you want to know who won an election you don’t look to see who has the best bat-wielding motorcycle riding maniacs

Mel Gibson: ****!

Q: Grade the Fed for me

Obama: I won't say anything bad about Bernanke - however he is a idiot and this is all his fault

Q: oh ok then

Obama: since then he has done a good job of taking the heat for me so that's good

Obama: hells my dog Bo got a credit card with
a $5,000 limit!

Q: wow

Obama: I know! I'm not paying for his night out on the town with some bitch he met on Petfinder!

Q: Bailouts?

Obama: if we had more laws in place before maybe this wouldn't have goddamm well happened!

Q: what took you so long to express your meaningless outrage about an election in a far-off country where we have a history of illegal interference?

Obama: because I'm not a total dumbass and didn't want to give the Iranian government ammunition!

Q: that's Reagan's job

Obama: exactly!

Q: will you still invite Iranian officials over for
the 4th of July?

Obama: if they want to - I'm serving hot
dogs and beer

Q: Will a public plan destroy America?

Obama: Look dipshit premiums are doubling every 9 years - at this rate they will swallow the whole planet!

Obama: oh I know everyone is worried about the deficit - well guess what fuckers it's because we have really high costs and a shitty system with 47 million uninsured

Q: oh

Obama: i want to cut costs, treat people, and spend money efficiently

Q: like how?

Obama: like take it away from insurance companies who waste it on trips to Vegas - yeah i said it Goodman!

Obama: jesus h christ you've got people out there who think they are insured and suddenly they're out 50,000 motherfuckin dollars!

Q: woo

Obama: so I'm talking about disciplining those ******* insurance companies - I'm gonna get medieval on their asses!

Obama: I mean why not offer people the choice of care that ******* members of Congress get!!

Q: but that will drive private bloodsuckers out of business

Obama: well **** if they can't compete with the government who they say can't do anything right then maybe they ******* suck

Potato Chip!

Chip: My friend Lindsay says you are timid and weak and John McCain says you are gay

Obama: what do you think Chippy?

[ full bore glare]

Obama: Lindsay said i was weak? that asexual freak?

Chip: and John McCain

Obama: how nice for John but I won the ******* election meaning I'm the fuckin’ President and Lindsay is a big baby and by the way if I took the side of the protestors the regime would say there were being paid by the CIA

Chip: so what you said just now helps the regime!

Obama: oh **** off

C Todd!

Todd: aren't you surrendering to the regime?

Obama: hey i know you have the attention span of a puppy on crack but I don't - next question!

Tappy!

J-Tapp: will you sign a public plan or not?

Obama: that's your ******* question?

J Tappp: no I have another

Obama: who the **** are you Tip Tap the ombudsman?

Tapp: ok Spock won't you drive poor little businesses out?

Obama: don't snark me dood

Obama: Look we all know insurers only have one job - take your money today and tell your to **** off tomorrow

But look if you believe in the free market and then what the **** are you worried about?

Tapp: but you promised that employers would keep health insurance forever

Obama: no I never did

Tapp: i know that

Q: you signed an anti-smoking bill - will the bill you signed stop you from smoking?

Obama: oh i see you think you're very clever

Q: no it's a serious question

Obama: no it wasn't and you know it - Macarena!

Macarena: talk to me about Chile

Obama: i like mine with beans, meat, and a lot of heat

Q: no the country

Obama: oh that - hey Chile may bail out California which would be awesome

Q: Brazil?

Obama: well that's very different - their President has the full Brazilian which is very cool

Hans: do we need another stimulus?

Obama: hey I've said it before - no on knew just how shitty Bush's economy was and we still haven't recovered

Obama: my stimulus is working and it will keep working but we are after all in a little Depression

Now I watch Chris Matthews moan about poll numbers and I say hey ****** we're doing everything we can but I don't blame people for being unhappy - I mean just look at Jon and Kate - this is a tough time in America!

April: black Americans are living through a real Depression dood if you won't help who will!?

Obama: Pete Hoekstra's never wins at video poker so he knows how they feel

April: true

Obama: but never fear we are training young people to text and e-mail

Suzanne: did you see the video of Neda??

Obama: yeah it's not as much fun as all the cat videos on YouTube

Suzanne: will you let people in Iran vote?

Obama: i support freedom of speech unlike some previous administrations I could mention - but this is about Iran not America and as Martin Luther King said the Justice League will prevail!
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Posted by Culture of Truth
Posted by - at 1:44 PM

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@Cycloptichorn,

Translation of today's presser by Obama:

* "Yes we can" make the dumb masses react positively to another focus-group based sloganeering campaign.

* "Yes we can" take control of another 20% of the American economy.

* "Yes we can" gain even more control over you by controlling your access to health care.

* "Yes we can" ration health care.

* "Yes we can" make the necessary excuses when this whole thing turns into dog squeeze. We'll blame what's left of the private sector.

* "Yes we can" stifle innovation in health care for the rest of time.

* "Yes we can" create long waiting lines for seeing a specialist.

* "Yes we can" make it seem as if there are only two MRI units in the entire nation

* "Yes we can" make the Canadians feel better knowing that misery loves company

* "Yes we can" successfully ignore the private sector's role in health care.

* "Yes we can" help to bury the people the people who die because their access to health care was limited due to their age.

* "Yes we can" run your health care like we've run Social Security and Medicaid.

* "Yes we can" fool most of the people in this country ... most of the time.

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