Obama '08?

@old europe,

old europe,

Your inability to see what is right in front of you confirms your ignorance.
Your constant efforts to change the subject and play the bitch are not becoming.
You are not worthy of further effort - you are a lost soul and therefore a lost cause.

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@au1929,

au1929 wrote:

Are you playing dumb or are you really that stupid.

No, I'm not playing dumb. I'm asking you to explain your statement. Right now you are attempting to avoid doing so by attacking me instead of answering.

Can't you just explain in a sentence or two, what the problem is with Obama and America showing Humility? If not, then your position is a pretty poor one.

Cycloptichorn

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@cicerone imposter,

CiCe is a boneless chicken and probably a virgin.

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@au1929,

au1929 wrote:

Are you playing dumb or are you really that stupid.

He's really that stupid.

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@old europe,

You must be a flaming candy ass if you think I'm a tough guy... or maybe you and
CiCe are the kind of fellas that are looking for a tough guy that will dominate you.
Do both you dream of being slaves and having Master Obama discipline you for being bad?

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@au1929,

au1929 wrote:

Are you playing dumb or are you really that stupid.

It isn't stupidity so much, I think, as a mindset. I don't think anybody can hold strongly leftist views and respect or truly appreciate the United States that was founded and became great by embracing much different views and principles, many that were unique and foreign to many European or Middle East powers. So a Leftist who holds no such antipathy toward other countries then has to tear down those American views and principles in order to make the USA acceptable in the eyes of those he wishes to ingratiate himself with. Only by us being contrite and admitting that we aren't like THEM, can we expect them to like us. So they seem to adore Obama all the more every time he apologizes for or puts down his own country.

Neither Ronald Reagan nor George W. Bush were/are saints or above reproach. But the one thing that they were most hated for is that they would not ingratiate themselves or the country they represented to foreign powers just so they could say that we were liked.

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@Cycloptichorn,

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Can't you just explain in a sentence or two, what the problem is with Obama and America showing Humility? If not, then your position is a pretty poor one.

The problem is that Obama is blind, he is a prisoner of his personal experience. In American it is not only acceptable but expected that the strong act as if they are weak, for the smart to act dumb, for men to let women lead them around by their dicks. Doing this is how one gets ahead in America. BUT THE REST OF THE WOLD DOES NOT OPERATE THAT WAY. In the rest of the world such behaviour marks the sucker, who one can be exploited and victimized.

Obama is trying to use the skills that got him to the top of American society, he expects that those skills will translate on to the world stage. He is wrong. America is a failing superpower, and America needs to verbalize that we understand that we are a failing superpower, but Obama goes many steps too far.

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@Foxfyre,

Right on!

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@McGentrix,

McGentrix wrote:

Right on!

+1

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

Quote:
Can't you just explain in a sentence or two, what the problem is with Obama and America showing Humility? If not, then your position is a pretty poor one.

The problem is that Obama is blind, he is a prisoner of his personal experience. In American it is not only acceptable but expected that the strong act as if they are weak, for the smart to act dumb, for men to let women lead them around by their dicks. Doing this is how one gets ahead in America. BUT THE REST OF THE WOLD DOES NOT OPERATE THAT WAY. In the rest of the world such behaviour marks the sucker, who one can be exploited and victimized.

Obama is trying to use the skills that got him to the top of American society, he expects that those skills will translate on to the world stage. He is wrong. America is a failing superpower, and America needs to verbalize that we understand that we are a failing superpower, but Obama goes many steps too far.

This is idiocy. Do you believe the rest of the world needs us to constantly remind them that we are top dog?

You are describing the mentality of a weak person; the all-pervading need to show a strong face to the outside world is a sign of insecurity, not one of strength. The strong person has no need to display his strength, for his inner confidence lets him know it is there regardless of what others say or do.

Look at the thumbs-up you are getting from fellow weaklings. That should be a sign to you that your philosophy is not a strong one, but a weak one. And I purely and 100% disagree with your assessment of 'the rest of the world' and what they believe about strength and weakness. Upon what evidence do you base this assessment? Nothing more than a projection of your own insecurities.

Cycloptichorn

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@H2O MAN,

See? You're not man enough to answer a simple question. Snide comments, innuendo, insults - that's about the extent of your posts here. You're calling other people dumbmasses, so it shouldn't be a problem for well-informed guy like you to answer the simple question of whether the government should have allowed GM and Chrysler to collapse in the free market or would you have the government step in?

Easy question. Should be easy enough to answer. Note that I'm not changing the topic.

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@Foxfyre,

Foxfyre wrote:

au1929 wrote:

Are you playing dumb or are you really that stupid.

It isn't stupidity so much, I think, as a mindset. I don't think anybody can hold strongly leftist views and respect or truly appreciate the United States that was founded and became great by embracing much different views and principles, many that were unique and foreign to many European or Middle East powers. So a Leftist who holds no such antipathy toward other countries then has to tear down those American views and principles in order to make the USA acceptable in the eyes of those he wishes to ingratiate himself with. Only by us being contrite and admitting that we aren't like THEM, can we expect them to like us. So they seem to adore Obama all the more every time he apologizes for or puts down his own country.

Neither Ronald Reagan nor George W. Bush were/are saints or above reproach. But the one thing that they were most hated for is that they would not ingratiate themselves or the country they represented to foreign powers just so they could say that we were liked.

You still have not detailed what damage it does for America to show humility on the world stage - specifically. None of you have. All you have done is assert, what exactly, regarding the effects of such an attitude?

Your assertion that leftists are not capable of respecting or appreciating America is laughably stupid and nothing more than partisan angst on your part, for these same leftists are currently running the show, and that makes you angry.

Cycloptichorn

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@old europe,

You are obviously blind and probably enjoy being humped by your seeing eye dog.

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@H2O MAN,

Now, that doesn't answer the question at all. I mean, that's what the dumbmasses would say, right? So let's go back to the question - which you still haven't answered: should the government have allowed GM and Chrysler to collapse in the free market or would you have the government step in? What would have been better?

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maporsche gets it, but old europe is lost in space without a clue.
Poor, poor pitiful oe.

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@H2O MAN,

Insults aside, does that mean you agree with maporsche, waterboy? Are you trying to say it would have been best if the government hadn't stepped in, and GM and Chrysler had collapsed last year?

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Rasmussen reports that in its poll of 1000 people...17% said yes to the question "To protest bailouts, should Americans boycott GM and refuse to buy GM cars."

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@Cycloptichorn,

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You still have not detailed what damage it does for America to show humility on the world stage - specifically. None of you have. All you have done is assert, what exactly, regarding the effects of such an attitude?

Come on now, you must have at some point gotten out into the world......when people think that they have an opportunity to get over on you they as a general rule will spend a good deal of energy trying to do just that. We want the rest of the world to work with America doing stuff that is in Americas best interest, we don't want them trying to figure out how to screw us for their own best interests. Playing the submissive does not work in economics nor in politics, normally. Sure, Bush was a neanderthal who caused a lot of damage clubbing things and people as he tried to act like a man, which made America receptive to the submissive leaning Obama. But Obama needs to realize that getting Americans to like him enough to get into office requires a different skill set then looking after America's interests. He shows no indication that he does. Humility is being willing to act human, submissiveness is being willing to be weak or act weak, there is a huge difference between the two.

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@old europe,

oe, are you trying to say I said something other than what I have said?
Is it customary for you to ignore what is right in front of you and make **** up as you go?
Are you saying the US Government takeover of GM and Chrysler could not have been avoided?
Are you saying everybody should "win" and that there are no longer any "losers"?
Are you saying all companies that file for bankruptcy are incapable of restructuring and emerging from bankruptcy without Obama's meddling?

Are you that ******* ignorant?

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@realjohnboy,

realjohnboy wrote:

Rasmussen reports that in its poll of 1000 people...17% said yes to the question "To protest bailouts, should Americans boycott GM and refuse to buy GM cars."

I think the % is now closer to 27%

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