Obama '08?

@parados,

I havent been able to get the link to it that Ifound to open.
If you have a link that works, post it.

As for the claim that...

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The willingness of a small percentage of military personnel to join extremist
groups during the 1990s because they were disgruntled, disillusioned, or suffering from
the psychological effects of war is being replicated today.

I dont buy it.
The only vet that they can point to is Timothy McVeigh, the guy that blew up the fed building in OKC.
But you dont deny that what I said about the report is true, do you.

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@mysteryman,

That isn't a "claim" MM. That is directly from the report.

It doesn't target all military as suspected terrorists. It only warns that there could be attempts to recruit some military to fringe groups that are prone to violence.

The title of that section is..

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Disgruntled Military Veterans

Unless you are going to argue that all military veterans are disgruntled your claim that they are targeting all veterans is nothing but made up garbage.

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The FBI noted in a 2008 report on the white supremacist movement
that some returning military veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have
joined extremist groups.

Your link worked fine for me
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/041609_extremism.pdf

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@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

If they target Muslims, or any other religion simply because of their religion, they are 100% wrong and dont deserve to be in power.
I said that during the Bush admin and will say that about the Obama admin also.

The problem with your argument MM is that any mention of a terrorist being muslim would have to mean they are targeting all muslims in order for it to be the same as your claim about them targeting all Vets.

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@parados,

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The problem with your argument MM is that any mention of a terrorist being muslim would have to mean they are targeting all muslims in order for it to be the same as your claim about them targeting all Vets.

And I also say that a persons religion has no bearing on them being a terrorist or not and doesnt deserve any mention.

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@mysteryman,

That's an odd sentiment MM.

If a person's view of religion is the reason they are a terrorist, I would think it does deserve mention. It is not damning of the religion in general to mention that they are using the religion to support their viewpoints. It is a starting point to look for others that might share the same viewpoints if you wish to prevent future terrorism.

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@mysteryman,

Yeah, but the reward of 74 virgins from Allah is a pretty good reward.

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@parados,

I am sure a small percentage of Parados type personalities may join extremist groups and be a danger to society as well. You certainly sound disgruntled at times.

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@okie,

Are you trying to tell us that all "disgruntled" people are potential terrorists? LOL

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This graph indicates that Muslim countries have a greater proclivity or to be by far the most fertile soil for terrorists to spring out of. After all, if you teach hatred for western societies in the educational systems, etc., what would one expect?

http://pewglobal.org/reports/images/248-2.gif

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@okie,

Hey, okie, how come no comparisons with other countries? LOL

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@cicerone imposter,

Here's another Obama failure:

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Obama: No charges for harsh CIA interrogation
President Barack Obama absolved the CIA from prosecution for harsh, painful interrogation of terror suspects Thursday, even as his administration released Bush-era memos graphically detailing " and authorizing " such grim tactics as slamming detainees against walls, waterboarding them and keeping them naked and cold for long periods.

Obama has now approved the crimes against the Geneva Conventions and other domestic and international mandates against torture. He is wrong. He has now become an accessory to those crimes.

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@cicerone imposter,

He's not campaigning now ci. It's realpolitik.

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@spendius,

I know he's not campaigning; that's precisely the problem; he's making dumb decisions as president.

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@cicerone imposter,

Didn't we idiots predict that?

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@spendius,

We? Don't include me. I do not agree with everything Obama has done or will plan for the future of our country. REPEAT: I am not a democrat or liberal.

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@cicerone imposter,

Oh yes you are. Has the cock crowed thrice?

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@spendius,

Tell me why?

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The announcement by Mr Holder today does not end the story. It just moves it up the ladder.
The (CIA) interrogators were told by folks from the previous administration's Justice Dept that all of the techniques employed were legal. As I understand it, today's action absolves those (CIA) folks of culpability. They were within the "law."
Still to come is a review of how the Justice Dept came to conclude that things like waterboarding were legal.

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@realjohnboy,

realjohnboy wrote:

The announcement by Mr Holder today does not end the story. It just moves it up the ladder.
The (CIA) interrogators were told by folks from the previous administration's Justice Dept that all of the techniques employed were legal. As I understand it, today's action absolves those (CIA) folks of culpability. They were within the "law."
Still to come is a review of how the Justice Dept came to conclude that things like waterboarding were legal.

Yes. Several of these people should be strung up for what they did.

Cycloptichorn

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

We? Don't include me. I do not agree with everything Obama has done or will plan for the future of our country. REPEAT: I am not a democrat or liberal.

nor include me, I may very well be a ******* extremist liberal but I ain't no damn democrat, I do have principles.

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