Obama '08?

Hypocrisy? That would be my guess.

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@McGentrix,

I'm surprised. Not that you think it is a non-issue, but that you actually think he didn't bow.

In any case, I don't think the bowing itself is a major issue, although I think it is unseemly for our president to bow before any monarch, let alone one who is a dictator.

However, if he felt it was a symbolic gesture to somehow signal his (and by extension America's) respect for the Muslim world, at least he was actually thinking and focused on the potential ramifications of the meeting.

What puzzles me (since I am certain he bowed) is the White House's denial.

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@mysteryman,

This whole business of bowing would not even merit much of a mention, if not for the fact that Obama is not generally trusted in regard to his sentiments, and this is just another dot connected with a bunch of dots, forming a pattern. And this is no surprise to many of us that have studied the man. He has been running around all over the world essentially apologizing for being an American. He really does believe the same stuff that the Rev. Wright raged about, but Obama says it nicer and more covert.

Take a look at a number of his other acts. His first television interview after his election was on Arabic cable tv. He returned the bust of Winston Churchill to Great Britain, that had been given to Bush for the whitehouse by Tony Blair. The same Winston Churchill that arguably has been the greatest 20th century figure to fight tyranny, that opinion by none other than Colin Powell. Obama also treats Brown and the queen in a questionable manner.

Also, now get this one, Obama refuses to visit Normandy for fear of offending the Germans! I guess the conclusion here is that he would rather not offend the Nazis or Adolf Hitler, but I thought they were mostly dead? -- but I guess he would rather offend the soldiers and descendants of those that spilled their guts and blood there on that beach to liberate Europe! The few things I mention here are only the tip of the iceberg. This guy is a piece of work, thats for sure.

"Barack Obama rejects Normandy trip to avoid offending Germany"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5096803/Barack-Obama-rejects-Normandy-trip-to-avoid-offending-Germany.html

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@okie,

The only people who doesn't trust Obama is you and about several dozen others in the US.

Believe it or not, Obama's plans are widely accepted by most Americans. Too bad you're not a true American.

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@cicerone imposter,

You are not a true American if you support a man that refuses to visit Normandy. Neither is Obama. Some of these things are bordering on treasonous attitudes. My Dad was an example of a true American, risking his neck in the Pacific. Too bad Obama chooses to stab that generation in the back, but of course he knows few are still around to vote. Only the young Obama kookaid drinkers that he can now recruit with ACORN. No longer surprising now that I see a poll indicating only 53% of Americans believe in capitalism anymore. Things are not looking good.

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@okie,

They don't believe in capitalism because of the Bush Cabal's eight years of economic complacency, concentrating on their adventures abroad without a consensus of foreign allies.

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@Lightwizard,

First of all, I don't think we have seen a real war in recent history, not a full blown one. These are police actions. And even your man, Obama now says Iraq was worth it, it has accomplished alot, he gives credit to our troops, etc. And he plans to EXPAND the war in Afghanistan.

So what was your complaint again?

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@okie,

I'd like to make a correction. These are real wars, but not large scale wars that can be compared at all with the two great Wars, or even Korea or Vietnam.

But in case people missed it, Obama declined to visit Normandy, because, now get this, HE DID NOT WISH TO OFFEND GERMANY!! Is this man really our president? I have to pinch myself, is this really happening. Bizarre to say the least, and most reasonable people would be looking for a way to impeach him as soon as possible to avoid the worst.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5096803/Barack-Obama-rejects-Normandy-trip-to-avoid-offending-Germany.html

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@okie,

okie wrote:

But in case people missed it, Obama declined to visit Normandy, because, now get this, HE DID NOT WISH TO OFFEND GERMANY!! Is this man really our president? I have to pinch myself, is this really happening. Bizarre to say the least, and most reasonable people would be looking for a way to impeach him as soon as possible to avoid the worst.

Ah.

So a couple of days ago you were whining and crying and moaning and complaining ceaselessly what a rookie Obama was for offending Great Britain. Oh my god, he gave the British Prime Minister a DVD collection! Behold, now he gave the Queen of England and iPod! And, worst of all possible offenses, now Michelle Obama offended all of the United Kingdom by breaking the protocol and touching the Queen! An unforgivable offense! He's insulting our allies and best friends! He's not worthy of being President!

Couple of days later, and you get all into a hissy fit because Obama refuses to visit Normandy! How dare he!? All this because he doesn't want to offend our "friends" and "allies"? What kind of President is he? Since when has an American President ever cared about offending any other country? All he should care about is how Americans feel about what he's doing! Offending Germany or Britain? Who gives a ****!? Impeach Obama! He's no true American! Down with the President!

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@old europe,

okie only knows how to bark; he doesn't see any positives when Obama does "anything." It's called noise pollution.

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@okie,

Sometimes I miss things (understatement) but I read through it twice and I didn't see any quotes by any Obama official that the reason they didn't go to Normandy was to avoid offending Germany besides in the misleading title.

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@old europe,

Yes, I don't particularly care if Obama offends Adolf Hitler or Nazis, most of which are dead and gone by now, or Germans that still have warm feelings about them, oe. Do you?

He doesn't mind offending Winston Churchill, but oh no, cannot offend Adolf Hitler.

Heavy stuff here, but somebody needs to say it, and acknowledge the elephant in the room in regard to Obama's mindset. Wake up people. We have a problem here.

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@okie,

Are you suggesting that every German who died during the Third Reich was a Nazi? Are you trying to tell me that every young man who got drafted into the Wehrmacht and sent to fight the Allies was a Jew-hating ideologist? Are you indicating that all those German people who lost family members in Russia, Africa or France due to the megalomaniac plans of a ruthless regime are brainwashed followers of Adolf Hitler, and offending them should not possibly be a concern for any American politician?

You didn't spend two minutes thinking about the implications, did you?

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@okie,

But from what I can tell he wasn't offending anybody, a trip to Normandy was not on the agenda for the trip this time.

Quote:

White House officials travelled to France at the start of March to discuss a visit by Mr Obama to Omaha Beach, the site of the American Cemetery, established in 1944 just after D-Day and where 9,387 American personnel are buried. Among them is Theodore Roosevelt Jr the eldest son of the 26th US President.

French officials and senior American military officers walked with White House staff through the cemetery discussing how the two presidents might follow the same route. But even before their trip, the White House had decided that Mr Obama would not travel there this week.

It wasn't going to happen," said an American official in Washington. "We went through the motions to placate President Sarkozy but giving special treatment to France was not on our agenda.

"During this trip, we wanted to maintain a balance between the British, German and France". A White House spokesman in London declined to comment. Last month, White House officials briefed that a Normandy visit had been considered but it had not been logistically possible.

Mr Obama will arrive in Strasbourg on Friday for the Nato summit. He will hold a meeting with Mr Sarkozy and a brief press appearance in Strasbourg and then fly to Baden-Baden to do exactly the same with Chancellor Merkel of Germany. He will then fly to Prague on Saturday.

Its not like he is not going to see him at all, he is having a press conference with him, apparently it was just not "logistically possible" to make a special trip to Normandy during this trip.

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@old europe,

okie doesn't think for two seconds before he posts anything; it's obvious from his lack of understanding on most subjects. He's a barker without much a bite.
After awhile, it just gets irritating.

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@old europe,

old europe wrote:

Are you suggesting that every German who died during the Third Reich was a Nazi? Are you trying to tell me that every young man who got drafted into the Wehrmacht and sent to fight the Allies was a Jew-hating ideologist? Are you indicating that all those German people who lost family members in Russia, Africa or France due to the megalomaniac plans of a ruthless regime are brainwashed followers of Adolf Hitler, and offending them should not possibly be a concern for any American politician?

You didn't spend two minutes thinking about the implications, did you?

No, in answer to your first questions, no, I do not hold every German responsible, no, I do not, however, and this is important, I have no shame or embarrassment about honoring the dead that died at Normandy to drive back and defeat Germany. Face it, Hitler was a bad guy and the German people just made a big mistake to follow him and fight for his cause. Sorry, but I hope the Germans get over it someday. If any Germans are offended over a president visiting Normandy, they will just have to be offended. I would hope your country has got past that by now.

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@revel,

revel wrote:

Its not like he is not going to see him at all, he is having a press conference with him, apparently it was just not "logistically possible" to make a special trip to Normandy during this trip.

Logistically possible? Highly debatable, and a very convenient excuse now that this has been reported.

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@okie,

You have a one view brain; our wars in Vietnam and Iraq were started on false information. Quit barking, you dummy!

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@cicerone imposter,

Hindsight again. The government couldn't predict you would bottle it ci. Not with you having technological superiority in factors of the thousands range and being so tough as well.

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@okie,

Perhaps (though I don't see why it wouldn't be logistically not possible or inconvenient for them) , okie, however I don't see a quote from any Obama official saying the reason they didn't want to go to Normandy because they didn't want to offend Germany which is what started you on this latest trumped up rampage.

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