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@snood,

snood wrote:

I have no interest in "taking shots" at you, Foxfyre. I really have very very little interest in you in any way, and the only reason I reply to you is because of your constant and consistently disingenuous niggling about everything Obama has done all the way back to his announcing for his candidacy. Every once in a while someone just needs to tell you that you are chock full of blind partisan (and often racist and divisive) bullshit. This was just my turn to do it, that's all.

Snood first says he has no interest in taking shots at Foxfyre, then proceeds to call her a racist. Not too hot, snood. You are the man that was so excited about having a president with a certain skin color.

Foxfyre has been on record for being a fan of certain black economists, black columnists, and now a black chairman of the RNC, but her judgement is not based on color of skin, but instead on policy and character.

Follow the advice of Martin Luther King, snood. By the way, MLK was a Republican, and when are you going to get tired of the slave masters in the Democratic Party?

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@okie,

Yeah, snood, when are you going to tire with the slave masters of the democratic party?

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Yep, Snood joined the conversation again and immediately brought up race where it didn't belong. Raise your hand if you're surprised.

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@maporsche,

You're right of course maporsche - in the future I'll make sure I consult with you to let me know where race does and does not "belong".

Not.

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@okie,

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Foxfyre has been on record for being a fan of certain black economists, black columnists, and now a black chairman of the RNC, but her judgement is not based on color of skin, but instead on policy and character.

Non-racists only of convenience, you lot. If we could move back to the sixties, dollars to donuts, you and your crew would be front and center screaming that the coloreds don't need to share the same things as the white folk.

We see it clearly in your skewed ideas on the treatment of gays and lesbians. We see it in the rants from closet racists that suggest that the treatment of Blacks is old history, this "let's move on, let's just forgive and forget" bullshit.

Yet we hear nothing from idiots like you who are oh so willing to put aside the past but whine and cry about 9-11, where, really, in the grand scheme of things, a measly few thousand died. You think nothing of the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis, Afghans, Vietnamese, Cubans, Nicaraguans, Iranians, the list is endless, that have been brutalized by the USA.

Yeah, you lot are quick with the 'forgive and forget" when it suits your narrow-minded purposes, but yet you're the biggest whiners on the planet.

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@Foxfyre,

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whatever I have ever said about President Bush--and I have been as uncomplimentary as complimentary there-

BULLSHIT!

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@spendius,

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How do you know ci. that it was an "unnecessary war" when you have no clue what the alternative might have been. It ousted other possibilities and your blithe assumption that they would all be satisfactory is a form of ignorance reinforced by prejudice.

You really can not possibly be this ignorant, Spendius. Just one very simple insignificant thing would be that tens of thousands of innocent people would still be living, breathing and possibly enjoying some of the features of daily life that you enjoy.

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@JTT,

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/07/world/middleeast/07iraq.html?hp

"BAGHDAD -- A series of six car bombs exploded in or near Baghdad on Monday, killing more than 30 people and wounding scores more, according to witnesses and the police.

Three bombs struck markets in predominately Shiite neighborhoods around Baghdad, but there did not appear to be any obvious pattern to the attacks. The blasts began shortly after dawn and continued in disparate parts of the city into the afternoon.

The deadliest bombing killed more than 20 people near the Areba market in Sadr City, an impoverished Shiite neighborhood in northeastern Baghdad, according to witnesses at the scene. As often happens immediately after attacks, the Ministry of Interior cited a lower death toll, saying 10 were killed but adding that 65 were wounded."

Well, here are some of the "features of daily life" one would be enjoying more often if we were not there.

But, I suspect you think this would NEVER happen if we were NOT there.

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@snood,

It's cool man; you're just a one trick pony. No biggie.

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@JTT,

Maybe. But my ignorance was shared by the Senate (unanimous I think), the House (overwhelming), our House of Commons (overwhelming) and a number of other governments. And boycotts of French goods were operated in the US because the French didn't agree.

But that wasn't the point I was making. You really do need to learn to read JT. I'm sure remedial English classes are available at your local adult education centres.

What do I know, or you for that matter, whether or not it was a necessary war? We employ thousands of bureaucrats and elected people to decide things like that rather than loose canons jacking off their compassion for our appreciation.

I wan't everybody in the world to enjoy the sort of life we do. Even if we all have to wear breathing equipment as we would if they all lived like us.

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@Woiyo9,

Those things definitely were not happening and you can't mitigate your criminality by pointing out others criminality.

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@spendius,

You really are that ignorant. How culpable these various houses were/are in the murder of thousands is to be determined. You Brits also have been dicking around for centuries with other people's lives with no real concern for their well being. Don't try that bullshit line that you now care.

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@JTT,

Well stated, JTT; they still don't "get it." Now, they've transferred their bigotry towards gays and lesbians, and do not want them to have the same legal rights as "heterosexuals." They want to preserve the "sanctity" of marriage; whatever that means.

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@Woiyo9,

Woiyo, Just goes to show your ignorance about Iraq's history; they've been at war with themselves for centuries. Same ignorance GWBush shows by thinking he could bring "democracy" there. Democracy is not only about elections; it's about how the citizens are free from each other's violence that's been going on much before Bush tried to plant democracy there.

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@JTT,

Are you delusional or stupid?

You are suggesting there was no violence in Iraq before the US went there?

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@cicerone imposter,

You should be sending you insults to JTT as JTT is the one suggesting everything was peaceful and tranquil in Iraq before the US got there.

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@cicerone imposter,

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They want to preserve the "sanctity" of marriage; whatever that means.

Sneering at marriage are we now? That should make you popular with the extreme Marxists. Your ratings will be going up faster than a bride's nightie.

Once marriage loses its sanctity the real estate is dealing in breeding hutches.

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@spendius,

What exactly would be the designations of the main players in a homosexual union ceremony? The equivalents of bride, bridegroom, bridesmaids, matrons of honour, best man, giver away, officiation personnel and the ring. Would the happy couple go away on honeymoon with all their friends and relations waving cheerily?

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Iraq was a suppurating pustule on the face of the earth which needed treatment just as Hitler did despite it taking some a long time to realise it. I saw the movie Sophie Scholl last night. Guillotined in 1943 four years after we recognised the dangers. In one scene she looked through her cell window in the hope the Americans would come soon.

And then there was 1956. Which launched Col Nasser who inspired the coup in 1958 which brought the republic of Iraq into existence amid much barbarity and which abrogated the Baghdad Pact. You might know the rest.

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@spendius,

Who's sneering at marriage? I've been happily married for 45 years. I just want gays and lesbians to have the same rights I do by marriage; legal rights of property and protections.

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