mysteryman
 
  1  
Sat 28 Feb, 2009 08:24 pm
@parados,
Because I wasnt the one that mentioned the Hippocratic Oath, and I didnt know there was an updated one.
JTT
 
  1  
Sat 28 Feb, 2009 08:36 pm
@mysteryman,
They should have kept in that part about "suffers who are stoned".
mysteryman
 
  1  
Sun 1 Mar, 2009 07:43 am
@JTT,
Where does it say that, in the oath I posted or the updated one?
0 Replies
 
okie
 
  0  
Mon 2 Mar, 2009 10:48 am
@parados,
This phrase out of your posted oath, Parados:

"I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery."

That seems to clearly indicate that if a doctor feels that an abortion is not one of his skills, that he should not only have a right to defer to another doctor, but he has an obligation to defer to another doctor.

It is routine for doctors to choose the specialties and type of doctoring, surgeries, etc. to perform. To force a doctor to do anything appears to come from a very authoritarian, weird, and bizarre form of attitude, in my opinion.

Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Mon 2 Mar, 2009 11:12 am
@okie,
okie wrote:

This phrase out of your posted oath, Parados:

"I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery."

That seems to clearly indicate that if a doctor feels that an abortion is not one of his skills, that he should not only have a right to defer to another doctor, but he has an obligation to defer to another doctor.

It is routine for doctors to choose the specialties and type of doctoring, surgeries, etc. to perform. To force a doctor to do anything appears to come from a very authoritarian, weird, and bizarre form of attitude, in my opinion.


Snort.

Nobody is forcing anyone to perform an abortion if they don't wish to, Okie. Do you honestly believe this is the case?

Cycloptichorn
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 2 Mar, 2009 11:13 am
@Cycloptichorn,
okie has a twisted brain that somehow imagines all the negatives to be the right ones.
0 Replies
 
okie
 
  0  
Mon 2 Mar, 2009 04:04 pm
Every day, its something else, another total disaster from this guy:

"Report: Obama Offers to Scrap Missile Shield If Russia Cooperates on Iran
President Obama wrote to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to tell him Russia's aid in resolving the threat from Iran would make plans for a missile defense shield in Europe unnecessary, according to Russian news agencies."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/02/report-obama-offers-scrap-missile-shield-russia-cooperates-iran/

We have a true amateur, a novice, running the country, selling us all down the river.
Cycloptichorn
 
  1  
Mon 2 Mar, 2009 04:07 pm
@okie,
okie wrote:

Every day, its something else, another total disaster from this guy:

"Report: Obama Offers to Scrap Missile Shield If Russia Cooperates on Iran
President Obama wrote to Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to tell him Russia's aid in resolving the threat from Iran would make plans for a missile defense shield in Europe unnecessary, according to Russian news agencies."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/02/report-obama-offers-scrap-missile-shield-russia-cooperates-iran/

We have a true amateur, a novice, running the country, selling us all down the river.



Laughing

As opposed to your wise leadership?

Cycloptichorn
0 Replies
 
Advocate
 
  1  
Mon 2 Mar, 2009 04:46 pm
@okie,
Pity Bush were not still in office. He did such a great job on everything. [Tongue in cheek.]
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 2 Mar, 2009 04:49 pm
@Advocate,
I'm sure the whole world loves him; that's not tongue in cheek; that's the reality. They say a thin line separates love and hate. LOL
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okie
 
  0  
Mon 2 Mar, 2009 09:23 pm
Are there any Obama appointees that paid all their taxes? At least by appointing all of these people, the IRS increases revenues. If Obama could appoint more people, we could decrease the deficit.

"Trade Nominee Ron Kirk to Pay $10,000 in Back Taxes
Ron Kirk, nominated as U.S. Trade Representative in the Obama administration, owes an estimated $10,000 in back taxes from earlier in the decade. "


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/02/trade-nominee-ron-kirk-pay-taxes/
Magginkat
 
  1  
Mon 2 Mar, 2009 10:49 pm
@okie,
Porn in the USA: Conservatives Are Biggest Consumers
8 of Top 10 Porn-Consuming States Voted Republican in 2008 Presidential Election
A new nationwide study (pdf) of anonymised credit-card receipts from a major online adult entertainment provider finds little variation in consumption between states.

There are some trends to be seen in the data. Those states that do consume the most porn tend to be more conservative and religious than states with lower levels of consumption, the study finds.

"Some of the people who are most outraged turn out to be consumers of the very things they claimed to be outraged by," Edelman says.

Old-Fashioned Values

Church-goers bought less online porn on Sundays " a 1% increase in a postal code's religious attendance was associated with a 0.1% drop in subscriptions that day. However, expenditures on other days of the week brought them in line with the rest of the country, Edelman finds.

Residents of 27 states that passed laws banning gay marriages boasted 11% more porn subscribers than states that don't explicitly restrict gay marriage.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/Business/Story?id=6977202&page=2
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 2 Mar, 2009 10:54 pm
@Magginkat,
Maggs, That is just tooo funny for words. LOL
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roger
 
  2  
Mon 2 Mar, 2009 10:57 pm
@okie,
There's not much to this one, Okie. Most of the back taxes comes from speaking fees. He had the fees sent direct to a scholarship fund, instead of declaring them as income and deducting them from taxes. Had he followed the correct procedure, it wouldn't have been taxable income anyway. I'm calling it a clear error.

This in not at the level of Geither and Daschle.

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Mon 2 Mar, 2009 11:02 pm
@roger,
Justice okie screwed up again!
roger
 
  1  
Mon 2 Mar, 2009 11:20 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Well, the story is being reported. I'm more interested in deliberate tax evasion than someone who missed two steps in the procedure, with the end result coming out the same.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Tue 3 Mar, 2009 12:10 am
@roger,
Haven't you noticed? okie is judge, jury and exe.... LOL He has insights into events most of us are not privy to.
roger
 
  1  
Tue 3 Mar, 2009 12:36 am
@cicerone imposter,
Not to put too fine a point on it, but for some, Bush could do no right, either. And Reagan? Wow. The president of the US was supposed to check out each school lunch menu, and make sure catsup wasn't counted as a vegitable.

0 Replies
 
reg373
 
  1  
Tue 3 Mar, 2009 01:22 am
I mean, Obama can be man-of-the-year and all, but let's
see him make some actual kumbaya before knighting him.
0 Replies
 
Advocate
 
  1  
Tue 3 Mar, 2009 10:56 am
@Magginkat,
Considering the right's great interest in porn, I am surprised they have the time to post so much.
 

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