Obama '08?

"Nasty, demeaning, personally insulting,vicious, erroneous and highly partisan" is a pretty good thing to point out as being nasty, demeaning, personally insulting, vicious, erroneous, and highly partisan, just for starters.

Not entirely clear what you're talking about, Possum.

When you say "my writing", do you mean your writing as "genoves", or your writing as "Italgato", or "Bocdaver", or "Mporter", or "Septembri", or "Chiczaira", or "Mortkat", or "BernardR", or "Renatus5", or "MarionT", or "Madison32"? Or under one of the other monikers you used?

Because there's lots of nasty, demeaning, personally insulting, vicious, erroneous and highly partisan **** to be found.

That is the name that people like Joe From Chicago gave to me. You see, Mr. Apisa, when you are too stupid to debate with some one, you descend to the level of name calling. I admit that I may have made some remarks that irritated some and which might be called "ad hominem" but only AFTER morons like the afflicted Mr. Blatham used a pejorative remark to me.

People like Joe From Chicago, Setanta and Blatham are sad examples of Liberals who are afraid to debate one on one. They should readily be able to use their stunning brain power to defeat me in debate. They do not. They are prime examples of people who do not believe in President Obama's mantra of "inclusiveness". They do not believe in "freedom of speech". They are hyopocrites. They do not believe in the "marketplace of ideas". They do not believe that people have a right to state their opinions in an open forum.

But, truly, Mr. Apisa, I think some of them are truly afraid to debate me . They fear that I will show them up. That is why they descend to name calling!

So is that why your resort to name calling? Because you're too too stupid to debate?

Didn't you claim you had a Master from the University of Chicago? They totally fleeced you, I'd say.

Jeeesssus H. Ceeerist...genoves...you mean to tell me that you are massagato???

You gotta be shittin' me.

Why if I had known that...I'da...I'da...I'da...

...well, I don't know for sure what I woulda done.

Wow.

This makes me feel so much better.

I was afraid I might be dissing someone who truly didn't deserve to be called a jackass.

But now...well, ya know!

Anyway, what were you saying???

I am sure that you can offer evidence to show why you are unable to discuss things rationally, Mr. Apisa, rather than name call. There are some who say that in the past I have proceed in an inhominem fashion. Yet these posts, where I refer to you as Mr. Apisa and you use a vile word to address me puts the lie to that charge.

Really? would you care to point out the nasty, demeaning, personally insulting, vicious, erroneous and highly partisan comments I have made or are you reading Mr. Apisa's last post?

Please join me in putting this **** on ignore.

had possum stew lately, bear?

You missed my post, Mr. Apisa.

That is the name that people like Joe From Chicago gave to me. You see, Mr. Apisa, when you are too stupid to debate with some one, you descend to the level of name calling. I admit that I may have made some remarks that irritated some and which might be called "ad hominem" but only AFTER morons like the afflicted Mr. Blatham used a pejorative remark to me.

People like Joe From Chicago, Setanta and Blatham are sad examples of Liberals who are afraid to debate one on one. They should readily be able to use their stunning brain power to defeat me in debate. They do not. They are prime examples of people who do not believe in President Obama's mantra of "inclusiveness". They do not believe in "freedom of speech". They are hyopocrites. They do not believe in the "marketplace of ideas". They do not believe that people have a right to state their opinions in an open forum.

But, truly, Mr. Apisa, I think some of them are truly afraid to debate me . They fear that I will show them up. That is why they descend to name calling!

You are now joined by the classy Mr. Bi Polar, who is aptly self-described. Mr. BiPolar proceeds to insult all women by using a vile term used only by street gangsters.

Massagatto in the flesh. LOL No wonder!

genoves...

...I love ya, Man.

No name calling.

I did use "jackass"...but among golfers, we only use that with people we like. And let's face it, Jackass is very, very mild compared with some of the stuff that comes out here.

I can tell you that I will not put you on ignore...and I will discuss anything with you that you want to discuss.

I must say that at times over the years, you have caused a stir. Many stirs, in fact.

But you say that is behind you...and I will accept that.

Whatta ya wanna talk about?

you are a bigger man than I Frank... I bow to you

Let's talk about anything we wish to talk about. That is the beauty of these forums. I must say that I admire your generosity of spirit but I would expect that from someone named APISA. I am guessing that your ancestors came from Italy--probablyTuscany and maybe, the ancient city of Pisa. If so, sir, you come from a long line of expert debaters. There is nothing more delightful than to stand near a group of Pisani(people from Pisa) and hear them yell out at each other, all the while waving their hands and moving their heads--a real guesturing people.

Am i right about you, Mr. Apisa?

Half right, Genoves.

I am obviously of Italian heritage...but my people came from Caserta...near Naples. There was a huge influx of Casertans to the United States back in the 1920's"and the area of central New Jersey where I live has thousands who trace roots back to that district.

The fictional charcter Dr. Malfi, Tony Soprano's psychiatrist in the HBO hit, The Soprano's, mentioned in one episode that her people came from there.

As for the famous tower...well, my late father was fond of mentioning that the tower had been in the family for centuries! It was his favorite response to almost anything anyone ever mentioned about the name.

Actually, though, my family, although not from Tuscany, is known as “a long line of debaters.” Unfortunately, they are also know as “a long line of opinionated, obstinate pains-in-the-butt”--a tradition I have tried to maintain and exemplify here on A2K. (Very successfully, in the opinion of many!)

I use to do a lot of hand-waving while talking, Genoves, but on one occasion during an occasion of especially animated discussion back many years ago...I managed to gesture my thumb into a fan operating alongside me, and from that time on, I've pretty much cut out the gesticulating.

Hope we have some friendly chats. We are so far apart philosophically, I'm sure a fair share of (close to) acrimonious “chats” will occur...and knowing that we can back off and be civil will be a blessing.

There are always a couple of louts on every board. I guess ours is Frank. What a putz!

I love when you talk that way!

This is the same guy who calls people "ignorant," because he can't really challenge what is said but resort to ad hominems himself.

How's he doing so far according to the link?

1460 days in his term.
488 promises being tracked.
That's 2.99 promises per day.
After 3 days in office here's the Obameter to date:

Tracking Obama’s promises
Promise Kept 5
Compromise 1
Promise Broken 0
Stalled 1
In the Works 14
No Action 488


Click MM's link for details on specific promises that have been acted on thus far. Thanks for the site, MM.

I wonder if such a tracking meter has ever been kept on other presidential campaign promises so some comparisons can be done.

Better still, we have historical records on GW Bush: http://tvnewslies.org/html/campaign_lies.html