Obama '08?

@realjohnboy,

realjohnboy wrote:

I was wondering who amongst us would blame todays's fall in the Dow on Obama's inauguration.
I would have bet on H20, who yesterday scored a trifecta: "Presidential Special Olympics." Obama is a "drunken monkey: and of course he is "O-Boy."

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@hawkeye10,

Yea, we need to get the non tax paying treasury guy in there to start work, that will inspire us all. He is, you know, the only qualified individual to do this job.

And I am sure the man that prayed for the white people to finally do something right really inspired alot of us too, after we think about it for a while, while the yellow man is mellowing, and so forth and so forth, oh whatever! I am feeling really inspired, hawkman.

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@okie,

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And I am sure the man that prayed for the white people to finally do something right really inspired alot of us too, after we think about it for a while, while the yellow man is mellowing, and so forth and so forth, oh whatever! I am feeling really inspired, hawkman

the pro's seem to agree with you about the speech being low on substance
http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/the-speech-the-experts-critique/

which would inspire selling if money is convinced that only an obama lead public sector can save the day. Today's speech does not inspire confidence that the cavalry is on the way.

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Larry Summers is a superb pick by O to be head of the National Economic Council. He is brilliant and has a reputation to get things done.

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@hawkeye10,

Your cavalry comment is the same old liberal tripe you have been hawking every day for the last 8 years. Tiresome.

The truth is Obama does not have a big mandate. This has not been mentioned much, but the country is still split, and Obama's digs in his speeches show the real Obama, and are not inspiring. I hope he someday gets over this, but only time will tell.

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@H2O MAN,

http://boortz.com/images/2009/01/012109_samuelson_o.jpg

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@H2O MAN,

H2O wrote:

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You couldn't get to me if your life depended on it.

I could get to you while concentrating on a crossword puzzle. You are easy!

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No worries though because we love you and we hope you are wearing your safety helmet.

Glad you love me...and I love you, too. No safety helmet needed!

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@Frank Apisa,

How was your nap?

Would you like your sippy cup refilled?

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@H2O MAN,

Nope. I'm just fine, thanks.

Well rested!

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@Frank Apisa,

It's good to know that your recovery is going well.

Baby steps!

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@okie,

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Next observation, the poem, I would be embarrassed, it sounded like a second grader learning how to read in front of a teacher, it had no rhyming, no rhythm, no cadence to the syllables and phrases that I could detect.

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Lastly, the prayer which turned out to be a speech about when "black will not be asked to get back, when brown can stick around " when yellow will be mellow " when the red man can get ahead, man " and when white will embrace what is right." I'm sitting there in disbelief as this guy turns a prayer into an insult.

Judging from the above quotes from your post, you are incapable of recognizing poetry if it is not simple rhyme and when there is simple rhyme in the ending of a prayer, you can't recognize the poetical nature of it.

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@H2O MAN,

H2O MAN wrote:

And today the market was up 3%. Obama's 1st day in office. Since Bush was President for 1/2 a day yesterday, the market could be said to be up during the new admin so far. Pretty silly, huh?
Onward. I was expecting to see some railing here because Mr Obama, due to Justice Robert's faulty language in the administration of the oath, did not adhere to the 35 words IN QUOTES in Article 2 of the Constitution as required. Therefore he is not really the President. I would have thought the conservative talk show hosts and bloggers would be all over that.

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@realjohnboy,

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Onward. I was expecting to see some railing here because Mr Obama, due to Justice Robert's faulty language in the administration of the oath, did not adhere to the 35 words IN QUOTES in Article 2 of the Constitution as required. Therefore he is not really the President. I would have thought the conservative talk show hosts and bloggers would be all over that.

Why should they?
You just did it for them.

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@mysteryman,

This has happened before. Roberts has, or will, swear O in in private.

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@realjohnboy,

rjb, Silly is spot on! Nobody looks at daily swings in the stock market to blame any government here or abroad. Nobody is able to predict how the Obama administration will repair the damage done to the domestic and international economies, but I trust they will give it their best shot with the most experienced and capable people in our country. I'm not sure any one person can do any better than what Obama has been doing to shore up his administration with the best. It's only the beginning of what I feel is real "hope" for our future.

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@Advocate,

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/01/obama-took-oath.html

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Obama Took Oath of Office Again Tonight
January 21, 2009 7:55 PM

Chief Justice John Roberts came to the White House tonight and administered the oath of office to President Obama at 7:35 p.m. ET in the Map Room.

"Because there was one word out of sequence" in yesterday's oath, explained White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, the president took the oath again "out of an abundance of caution."

Only people in the room were President Obama, Roberts, Gibbs, WH communications staffer Katie Lillie, WH photographer Pete Souza, and four print reporters.

"We believe that the oath of office was administered effectively and that the president was sworn in appropriately yesterday," White House counsel Greg Craig said in a statement. "But the oath appears in the Constitution itself. And out of an abundance of caution, because there was one word out of sequence, Chief Justice Roberts administered the oath a second time."

President Obama was seated on a sofa when the pool reporters walked in to record the event.

"We decided it was so much fun," Obama joked.

Then Obama stood.

Chief Justice Roberts then put on his robe.

"Are you ready to take the oath?" Roberts asked.

"I am, and we're going to do it very slowly," Obama said.

Total running time of new oath: 25 seconds.

Roberts said, "Congratulations, again."

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@Butrflynet,

It is interesting, B'Net, that the 20th ammendment to the constitution makes no reference to an oath. Rather, the transfer occurs at a specific time.

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@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

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Onward. I was expecting to see some railing here because Mr Obama, due to Justice Robert's faulty language in the administration of the oath, did not adhere to the 35 words IN QUOTES in Article 2 of the Constitution as required. Therefore he is not really the President. I would have thought the conservative talk show hosts and bloggers would be all over that.

Why should they?
You just did it for them.

I don't rail, MM.

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@realjohnboy,

(Article II, Section 1, Clause 8)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Clause_8:_Oath_or_Affirmation

Other flubs and redos of historical note:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_office_of_the_President_of_the_United_States

In 1929, Chief Justice William Howard Taft garbled the oath when he swore in President Herbert Hoover using the words "preserve, maintain, and defend" (the constitution), instead of "preserve, protect, and defend". Eventually Taft acknowledged his error, but did not think it was important, and Hoover did not retake the oath.[5][6]

In 1945 President Harry S. Truman's bare initial caused an unusual slip when he first became president and took the oath of office. At a meeting in the Cabinet Room, Chief Justice Harlan Stone began reading the oath by saying "I, Harry Shipp Truman, . . ." Truman responded: "I, Harry S. Truman, . . ."[7]

Besides Obama in 2009, several other presidents have also taken the oath of office a second time for a variety of reasons.

In the cases of Presidents Calvin Coolidge[12] and Chester A. Arthur,[13][14] they both had taken the first oath in a private venue (their residences), in the middle of the night right after being notified of the death of a predecessor (Warren G. Harding and James A. Garfield, respectively), and later retaking it after returning back to Washington. In the case of Coolidge, there was an additional doubt whether an oath administered by a public notary (Coolidge's father) would be valid.[15]

Other presidents (e.g., Woodrow Wilson in 1917) have taken a private oath when Inauguration Day fell on a Sunday, and a second oath in a scheduled public ceremony the next day.[16]

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@realjohnboy,

realjohnboy wrote:

And today the market was up 3%. Obama's 1st day in office. Since Bush was President for 1/2 a day yesterday, the market could be said to be up during the new admin so far. Pretty silly, huh?
Onward. I was expecting to see some railing here because Mr Obama, due to Justice Robert's faulty language in the administration of the oath, did not adhere to the 35 words IN QUOTES in Article 2 of the Constitution as required. Therefore he is not really the President. I would have thought the conservative talk show hosts and bloggers would be all over that.

rjb, we have Geithner stating that he used Turbo Tax, and that statement alone, the pundits were speculating how it affected Intuit's stock price, as it seemed to recover following that statement, that being yesterday, I don't know what it did today. The stock market does respond to emotion, and what is more emotional than the inauguration this week. As I said, lots of factors mixed together determine the stock market, but to claim it had nothing to do with it is the "pretty silly" statement. I'm glad it came back today, but what about tomorrow and the next day? I don't honestly know, but I think the market would welcome good news and optimism with open arms, it is looking for something to be optimistic, I think it is waiting to see if there is anyone in Washington that knows what they are doing, and so far they don't see anybody that can inspire confidence. I hope the market sort of cycles into an upturn on its own, but there is not much confidence in Democratic policies that I can see now.

In the long term, unless the government reforms things that improve the foundation of a healthy economy, I do not think we have solved any of our economic problems. So far, I have not heard Obama mention anything that really addresses the foundational problems. Unless we correctly identify the problem, we will not be able to solve the problem, plain and simple.

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