Obama '08?

@sozobe,

Hey! I hadnt actually seen your post here before I came across the same quote and turned it into the headline of my new blog post...

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@Diest TKO,

Hook 'em Horns.

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Stuff on the net I now notice - claiming that Obama belonged to something called the New Party, a Socialist party back in the 90s when he ran for the Illinois legislature, this party apparently no longer exists. Is there anything to this, anybody have the original smoking gun? Which doesn't really matter, we now know the guy is socialist, if not outright marxist.

What we have to note here is that interested people have to dig stuff up, as the mainstream media has no curiosity about any of this, so this is standard run of the mill stuff necessary to research who Barack Obama is. We cannot rely upon the main press or on Obama himself to give us honest and full disclosure. So is this real or not?

This from a website:

http://conservativeculture.com/2008/10/obamas-membership-in-socialist-group-the-new-party

"On Tuesday, I discovered a web page that had been scrubbed
from the New Party’s website. The web page which was published in
October 1996, was an internet newsletter update on that years
congressional races. Although the web page was deleted from the New
Party’s website, the non-profit Internet Archive Organization had archived the page.
From the New Party’s October 1996 Update:

Three NP-members won Democratic primaries last Spring and
face off against Republican opponents on election day: Danny Davis
(U.S. House), Barack Obama (State Senate) and Patricia Martin (Cook
County Judiciary)."

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@okie,

The interesting thing about this is that it cements the fact that the Democratic Party has indeed been taken over and transformed into a leftist party, not yet altogether acknowledged or admitted, but a fact nonetheless. It may be that even the Clintons have been out maneuvered by Obama and his underground operatives, sort of a bloodless coup within the party to transform it into a truly radical party. Details of the radical agenda not yet known, but this helps explain the shouting of the word, "change" a little more clearly. That is about the only word that Obama used for most of the campaign, especially against Clinton. Just press his button, and he said "change." Over and over.

Many thoughts, but I don't know about buying stocks these days, I know Warren Buffet is big on buying American company stock, but what happens if the oil company you buy stock in is nationalized? Much food for thought here. Is this in fact a present factor in the nervousness of the market? All of this brings up many questions too numerous to mention.

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@okie,

This has been reproduced on the web apparently from archives from 1996:

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z23/cnredd/Obama_New_Party.gif

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A friend just told me about her parents. They all voted early here in VA. Her parents usually cancel out each other's votes (which would honestly be a reason to stay home normally, but they still go to the polls anyway...) , but this year her father, a registered republican, cast his vote for Obama.

+3 more for Obama in VA.

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@okie,

What happens to you okie if you are right about Obama and it turns out his ideas totally work?

Being that you've made up your mind about who he is, and what that means for you, You can go ahead and just deal with it. The man is being voted for by his plans and his ideas. If what this country needs is some socialistic elements, fine. I think that real socialists would find Obama to be pretty damn conservative.

If you work too hard to make him into a socialist and his ideas end up working, it will be a hard pill to swallow that socialism has a place in a democracy, and you will have labeled it so.

On the other hand, I have zero confidence that you have the intellectual backbone to ever admit that Obama will ever do anything right, so the experiment is null.

I have little worry about Obama. I have real concerns about McCain. Like I've said before, the democrats will confess they are socialists the day the republicans admit their fascists.

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@JPB,

Kansas City Star -- yep, Kansas!

Quote:

These are anxious times for Americans. A faltering banking system, plummeting stock prices, difficult conflicts abroad, huge federal deficits, rapidly escalating health expenses . . . the list of troubles seems to go on and on, and public faith in our national leaders and key institutions has suffered.

But the six issues highlighted below illustrate why we believe Sen. Barack Obama is the right person to lead the country forward. He is a man of strength, empathy, energy and intelligence.

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Stuff on the net I now notice - claiming that Obama belonged to something called the New Party, a Socialist party back in the 90s when he ran for the Illinois legislature, this party apparently no longer exists.

I invite people to explore the full archive of the website depicted in the screen capture. Here's a link to the archived home page. Explore the links contained within.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010204021800/www.newparty.org/index.html

I also invite you to read the Discussion page of the Wikipedia entry for The New Party (USA)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:New_Party_(United_States)

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Obama raises $150 Million in September. His previous record was 66 million in one month.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/obama_raises_over_150_million.php

GO OBAMA

Cycloptichorn

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@Diest TKO,

Funny that your mention of "cancel each other's votes" was our situation when I was registered as a republican. I'm now an independent, but vote in tandem with my wife more often then not.

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E&P's list of newspaper endorsements - OUR FULL ENDORSEMENT TALLY: Obama Widens Lead to 94-28 - really is surprising since there are quite a few newspapers, which backed Bush before, didn't endores a Democrat the last couple of years: Chicago Sun-Times, Chicago Tribune, LA Tribune, Kansas City Star. Southwest News-Herald (Ill.), the Atlanta Journal-Constitution ...

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'Don't feel sorry for John McCain': White House hopeful
Published: Sunday October 19, 2008

Republican White House candidate John McCain, who has seen his standing in the polls sink in recent weeks, on Sunday evoked the prospect of his own defeat but said he would not be "feeling sorry for himself" if he lost.

Asked on Fox News Sunday whether he had considered the possibility of losing on November 4 to his Democratic rival Barack Obama, McCain said "Oh sure. I mean, I don't dwell on it.

"But look, I've had a wonderful life. I have to go back and live in Arizona, and be in the United States Senate representing them, and with a wonderful family," he added.

"I'm the luckiest guy you ever interviewed.... Don't feel sorry for John McCain, and John McCain will be concentrating on not feeling sorry for himself."
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/_Don_t_feel_sorry_for_John_McCain_W_10192008.html Laughing

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@blueflame1,

According to a speech he made today, he said "he's at the right position" in this campaign. He should be; he earned exactly what he worked hard for.

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@Butrflynet,

Butrflynet wrote:

okie wrote:

Stuff on the net I now notice - claiming that Obama belonged to something called the New Party, a Socialist party back in the 90s when he ran for the Illinois legislature, this party apparently no longer exists.

I invite people to explore the full archive of the website depicted in the screen capture. Here's a link to the archived home page. Explore the links contained within.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010204021800/www.newparty.org/index.html

I also invite you to read the Discussion page of the Wikipedia entry for The New Party (USA)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:New_Party_(United_States)

So I take it I have no objections to my post, this New Party stuff must have something to it, and now that the cover is being blown, you are even going to come out of the closet to trumpet what this so called New Party has to offer?

Please elaborate, and don't play games. Was Obama a member in your opinion? Be honest if you can bring yourself to do it. Maybe I am the one in the dark, everybody else has known this from day 1?

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@okie,

okie wrote:

Please elaborate, and don't play games. Was Obama a member in your opinion? Be honest if you can bring yourself to do it. Maybe I am the one in the dark, everybody else has known this from day 1?

You can chalk me up in the category "I dont care either way", Okie.

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@nimh,

On the same token, I wonder the okies' of this world are interested in what Obama did when he was two years old. Maybe he pooped in his pants.

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@nimh,

nimh wrote:

okie wrote:
Please elaborate, and don't play games. Was Obama a member in your opinion? Be honest if you can bring yourself to do it. Maybe I am the one in the dark, everybody else has known this from day 1?

You can chalk me up in the category "I dont care either way", Okie.

So you don't care about what a politician's past record is? And I keep asking, why should you care anyway, you don't live here?

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

On the same token, I wonder the okies' of this world are interested in what Obama did when he was two years old. Maybe he pooped in his pants.

So I take it you don't care about Obama's political track record. I don't think he was community organizing or running for Illinois legislature when he was 2?

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@cicerone imposter,

I hear that when Obama was 2, he once told his mommy "NO!" in a fit of defiance!

And later, when he was 10 he shared some candy with some other kids. Socialism came natural to young Obama.

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