OCCOM BILL
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 08:19 am
If I could pick how I'd want the graph to look so far... :wink:

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6792/gobamacjf1.jpg

This, to me, is indicative that most of the Hill-people are getting a grip.
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cjhsa
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 08:29 am
Blue states suck.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 08:32 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
If I could pick how I'd want the graph to look so far... :wink:

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6792/gobamacjf1.jpg

This, to me, is indicative that most of the Hill-people are getting a grip.


I think you must be right - Vote Both, the 'Hillary for VP' shop, is out of business.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/07/obamaclinton_ticket_group_shut.php

Cycloptichorn
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Ticomaya
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 08:49 am
Here's an interesting chart:

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6628/6740236125941959lp5.jpg
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 08:51 am
It's interesting to see how the conservatives are trying to ignore the electoral votes; the final arbiter of this election.

As McCain continues to bash Obama, his numbers continues to decline.
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mysteryman
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 08:59 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
It's interesting to see how the conservatives are trying to ignore the electoral votes; the final arbiter of this election.

As McCain continues to bash Obama, his numbers continues to decline.


How can you ignore them when they havent been counted yet?
So far, all of the graphs, maps, and anything else posted is just speculation.
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H2O MAN
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 09:00 am
All Obama
All 57



All fired up
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Ticomaya
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 09:00 am
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2561/6740236125229556ai8.gif
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H2O MAN
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 09:30 am
A HOAX we can believe in.
The more I look at him the more Obama looks like a big HOAX.


A HOAX we can believe in Laughing
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H2O MAN
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 10:17 am
http://www.iowapresidentialwatch.com/images/cartoons/EmptySuit-Md.jpg
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H2O MAN
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 10:27 am
http://users.sleekcom.com/LouMissBass/AE_Obama.jpg
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mysteryman
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 10:28 am
Here is an interesting column in the Huffington Post about Obama...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dennis-perrin/obamas-war_b_115869.html

Quote:
Obama supporters and blissed-out Barry-heads everywhere: Are you ready for some righteous war? Are you prepared to step up and get ******* medieval in Afghanistan, and perhaps in Pakistan as well? You'd better be, for the man whose feet you're currently kissing has big plans to expand the War On Terror, and now is not the time for faint-hearted second-thoughts. Polish those boots, clean your weapons, and get in formation. The moment of truth is arriving soon.

Ah, who am I kidding? Of course American liberals will fall in line. They've been itching to show that they, too, can bellow for large body counts, cheer cluster bombs and patriot-bait those who dare question Dear Leader. Problem is, Bush and Cheney have been running the killing machine, and this has put a damper on the traditional liberal love of imperial war. But that era is ending, and unless Obama finds some way to blow this election (or if enough frightened whites in key states decide that having a president of color is a little too much for their racist psyches to absorb), we're going to see a renewed period of sustained bloodshed, with lots of dead and mangled Afghans in the foreground. As my friend Chris Floyd put it:

"For years now, 'serious' liberals have repeated the mantra that Bush 'took his eye off the ball' in the War on Terror by fighting in Iraq instead of focusing on Afghanistan, the 'good war,' the 'right war.' Now Obama looks set to call their bluff: 'You wanted a big war in Afghanistan? Here it is. Now what?'



His conclusions are interesting, and I'm not entirely sure I disagree with him.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 10:31 am
McCain campaign accuses Obama of playing race card

By MIKE GLOVER, Associated Press Writer 43 minutes ago

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa - John McCain's campaign accused Barack Obama on Thursday of playing racial politics a day after the Democratic candidate predicted Republicans would try to scare voters by pointing out "he doesn't look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills."


Obama "played the race card, and he played it from the bottom of the deck," McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said in a statement. He called Obama's remarks "divisive, negative, shameful and wrong."

Stumping in Missouri, Obama, the first black candidate with a shot at winning the White House, argued Wednesday that President Bush and McCain will resort to scare tactics to maintain their hold on the White House because they have little else to offer voters.

"Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they're going to try to do is make you scared of me," Obama said
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cjhsa
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 10:54 am
But IF Obama is elected, he will mint a new bill, known as the "bling bling" bill, with which you can buy anything. It will have his picture on it, and smell like BO.
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woiyo
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 11:01 am
Well, Obama IS playing the race card when he makes dumb statements like that.
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okie
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 11:01 am
Get used to the race card, and if he loses, katie bar the door. That is the scenario built by his supporters, if he wins it won't be because of race, but if he loses, it will be. Pathetic.

The scenario is I deserve it, and don't you dare oppose me, and if you do, you are a racist.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 11:05 am
What a bunch of losers you guys are. McCain's camp is doing exactly what Obama accused them of, and you guys turn around and accuse Obama of 'playing the race card?' Please! Your candidate is getting his ass kicked, he's desperate, and flailing about making embarrassing and silly commercials which do nothing but lessen him as a man, and you have nothing at all to say about that?

I think it's really true - you guys suck at defense. You have no idea how to actually defend McCain. He's not defensible, b/c you don't even like him. All you have is attack. It's sad.

Cycloptichorn
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woiyo
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 11:13 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
What a bunch of losers you guys are. McCain's camp is doing exactly what Obama accused them of, and you guys turn around and accuse Obama of 'playing the race card?' Please! Your candidate is getting his ass kicked, he's desperate, and flailing about making embarrassing and silly commercials which do nothing but lessen him as a man, and you have nothing at all to say about that?

I think it's really true - you guys suck at defense. You have no idea how to actually defend McCain. He's not defensible, b/c you don't even like him. All you have is attack. It's sad.

Cycloptichorn


Can't take the heat? Get out of the race...

No doubt Obama has fame. He fills political venues with people. He breaks fundraising records with a massive donor base. He does not have a name recognition problem. But Obama himself concedes that his challenge is getting voters to see him as president

"It's a leap, electing a 46-year-old black guy named Barack Obama," he said Wednesday.

But McCain can't compete with Obama on popularity. Instead, he is working on sowing doubts about his opponent: that he's not tested, not ready to lead and too out of touch with the public.

"The Obama campaign does a wonderful job of presenting their candidate in the most popular light that they can get, and they do a very good job at it," McCain campaign manager Rick Davis told reporters Wednesday.

"I'm going to let the American public decide what is negative and what is not negative," he added. "But I'm going to do everything in my power to protect my candidate and to define the race in terms that I think are appropriate."

In public, McCain's criticism of Obama is not as sharp: "Sen. Obama is an impressive speaker, and the beauty of his words have attracted many people especially among the young to his campaign," he said Wednesday. "I applaud his success. All Americans should be proud of his accomplishments. My concern with Sen. Obama is with issues big and small, what he says and what he does are often two different things."

For his part, Obama has managed to keep his hands cleaner on negative ads, though he has counter-punched. Instead, outside groups that support him have run commercials against McCain. On Thursday, a coalition including MoveOn.org and the Sierra Club were launching ads critical of McCain's stance on energy and gasoline prices.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080731/D928MBU80.html

It is PAINFULLY obvious to any objective observer that both will say and do anything to get elected.

You just take take the criticism. Too bad!
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 11:18 am
Yeah, I just take take the criticism. Rolling Eyes

I think you guys will keep on bitching, and Obama will just keep on winning. And I'm okay with that. I've said all along that his election will give you the opportunity to be angry jerks for the next four years, which I have no doubt you will enjoy.

Obama is currently ahead by a lot. If he wins all of Kerry's states - which seems a virtual certainty at this point, as he's way ahead in them - he only needs to win ONE of Virginia, Colorado, Ohio and Florida to win the election, and polls show him leading in all four. In fact, Obama could lose all four of those, but still emerge victorious if he wins Nevada and Congress breaks the 269-269 tie. He's FAR ahead of McCain at this point, who has to make up ground in 6-7 states just to pull even!

Cycloptichorn
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mysteryman
 
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Thu 31 Jul, 2008 11:21 am
Well, this is interesting to read...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/wireStory?id=5483678

Quote:
Those 75,000 Democrats who will pack a football stadium for Barack Obama's convention speech won't be there just to whoop and holler on television. They'll form the world's largest phone bank to boost voter registration - fired-up supporters using computer targeting the campaign has spent months putting together.

The move to the Invesco Field at Mile High stadium for the convention's final night next month �- at an additional cost of $5 million �- will capture a huge crowd the Obama campaign plans to put to work. They'll be armed with data gleaned through "microtargeting" unregistered voters the campaign believes are ripe to back Obama if pressed to get on board.


Are those people going to be paid for their work?
And why do this if Obama is sure about winning?
And can the people contacted by this phone bank get registered in time to vote in the Nov elections.
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