cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Wed 23 Jul, 2008 09:09 pm
Just some thoughts about this race between Obama and McCain.

Poor McCain is losing out on the PR fight, and his campaign leaders are lost in what they can do. McCain continues to battle his own rhetoric at home, while Obama gets world-wide exposure and and real welcome mats from foreign dignitaries not seen for eight years.

Obama not only has the smarts, but he has some good campaign people who knows how to strike it rich not only in the Middle East and Europe, but also at home. All this after McCain continues his tired old rhetoric about his "experience" which seems to bite him in the behind with his gaffs.

This is so much fun to watch!
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okie
 
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Wed 23 Jul, 2008 09:22 pm
joefromchicago wrote:
"This is pretty extraordinary. A candidate for the American Presidency is using flyers printed in German to turn people out for his campaign rally in Berlin on Thursday."

Yes, it has finally come to this: the right wing is criticizing Obama for printing flyers printed in German to encourage people to attend his speech ... IN GERMANY! Clearly, Obama's flagrant use of a foreign language is a menace to American liberty. Or something like that.

Uh, uh, uh, um, I thought Obama was running for president of the U.S.? Is he lost? Does he think he is running now in Germany?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 23 Jul, 2008 09:26 pm
Why there are some disagreements about race in the US: The good news is that the differences are narrowing.



USA TODAY



By Susan Page and William Risser, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON ?- Blacks and whites continue to have profoundly different perspectives on the prevalence of racism in America, a Gallup Poll finds, but it also shows a modest narrowing in some of those gaps and a jump in optimism about the future.

The survey paints a mixed picture of race relations. The racial divide over whether African Americans are treated fairly hasn't abated, and blacks and whites are deeply divided on how much of a role bias plays in problems faced by the African American community.

On the other hand, a record 58% of Americans say race relations "eventually will be worked out," while 38% say they will "always be a problem." For the first time since Gallup began regularly asking that question in 1993, slightly more African Americans took the optimistic view over the pessimistic one.

"I don't believe we've totally overcome everything that's necessary for equality, but I do believe things are getting better," says Ricardo Russell, 30, a retail sales manager from Oak Park, Mich., who participated in the poll. He is black.

"They're better than they used to be, that's for sure," Susann Matarese, 52, a medical receptionist from Port Charlotte, Fla., who is white, says of race relations. "It's the younger people who are doing this," though she's not entirely comfortable with the interracial dating she increasingly sees.

The poll ?- the latest in an annual series on race relations by Gallup ?- included 702 non-Hispanic whites, 608 non-Hispanic blacks and 502 Hispanics. Some of the questions in the survey June 5-July 6 were asked in partnership with USA TODAY.

The prospect that Barack Obama at next month's Democratic convention will become the first African American nominated for president by a major party has spotlighted the issue of race in America. In follow-up interviews with some of those surveyed, both blacks and whites predict his candidacy and potential election would affect racial views, for better or worse.

Among the findings:

•Blacks and whites continue to see different worlds when it comes to race. Two-thirds of non-Hispanic whites say they are satisfied with the way blacks are treated in the USA; two-thirds of blacks say they are dissatisfied.

Most blacks identify racial discrimination as a major factor in a list of problems the African American community faces, including shorter life expectancies than whites and a higher likelihood of going to prison. Most whites call racism a minor factor or not a factor in those situations.

•Blacks' views have improved a bit when it comes to equality in employment and housing, though a wide gap with whites' views remains. Now, 52% of African Americans say blacks have as good a chance as whites to get any housing they can afford, a jump of 8 percentage points from last year. And 43% of African Americans say blacks have as good a chance to get any kind of job they're qualified for, up 5 points from last year and 10 points from 2005.

•The gap between blacks and whites in assessing race relations seems to be narrowing. Last year, 75% of whites and 55% of blacks said black-white relations were good, a 20-point gap. This year, that difference of opinion drops to 9 points.

"There was a time when people couldn't live in certain places, but now it seems as long as you have the money you can live anywhere," says Angela Ross, 44, a stay-at-home mom from Houston who is black. Even so, she still sees "a lot" of racial stereotyping and adds, "There are a lot more disadvantaged black people than there are white."

Ed Menes, 69, a college professor from Chicago who is white, says race relations have improved but are still "sort of iffy." He and several other white respondents noted the controversy over Jeremiah Wright's inflammatory words about racism in America, which prompted Obama to leave his church.

"I thought everything was great until I heard Rev. Jeremiah Wright," says Kim Comeaux, 52, of Plaquemine, La., who is white. She says race relations are "pretty bad" and "getting worse."

Most Americans say race relations are getting better. Eight in 10 whites and seven in 10 blacks say civil rights for blacks have improved in the past decade. Nearly as many say civil rights will improve over the next decade.

Will the nation eventually reach a point where race doesn't matter?

"In my lifetime, I don't see that," says Paul Criswell, 39, of Suffolk, Va., who is white. Perhaps "in my son's lifetime." He's 2 years old.



Find this article at:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-07-23-Race-poll_N.htm?csp=34
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cicerone imposter
 
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Wed 23 Jul, 2008 09:28 pm
okie wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
"This is pretty extraordinary. A candidate for the American Presidency is using flyers printed in German to turn people out for his campaign rally in Berlin on Thursday."

Yes, it has finally come to this: the right wing is criticizing Obama for printing flyers printed in German to encourage people to attend his speech ... IN GERMANY! Clearly, Obama's flagrant use of a foreign language is a menace to American liberty. Or something like that.

Uh, uh, uh, um, I thought Obama was running for president of the U.S.? Is he lost? Does he think he is running now in Germany?



No, okie. What Obama is doing is changing how the US communicates with our allies. Do you remember, Change?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Wed 23 Jul, 2008 09:49 pm
Pity I had no takers. Okie, you're quick enough to make this guy proud.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Ivan_Pavlov_%28Nobel%29.png
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okie
 
  0  
Wed 23 Jul, 2008 10:15 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
okie wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
"This is pretty extraordinary. A candidate for the American Presidency is using flyers printed in German to turn people out for his campaign rally in Berlin on Thursday."

Yes, it has finally come to this: the right wing is criticizing Obama for printing flyers printed in German to encourage people to attend his speech ... IN GERMANY! Clearly, Obama's flagrant use of a foreign language is a menace to American liberty. Or something like that.

Uh, uh, uh, um, I thought Obama was running for president of the U.S.? Is he lost? Does he think he is running now in Germany?



No, okie. What Obama is doing is changing how the US communicates with our allies. Do you remember, Change?

Uh, uh, uh, umm, ah, you know, uh, ah, uh, .......

Hows that, uh ci, am I uh, um, catching onto it, uh, too, how to, uh, communicate?

Uh, I, uh, um, I am uh trying, uh to uh, change, uh, ci.

Verstehen sie, ci?

By the way, how do you say "uh" in German? If Barack learns that one, he should have it made.
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okie
 
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Wed 23 Jul, 2008 10:29 pm
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Pity I had no takers. Okie, you're quick enough to make this guy proud.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Ivan_Pavlov_%28Nobel%29.png

Step 1: Disagree with Bill
Step 2: Bill opens mouth and says "racist" or sometimes "bigot."
Step 3: Repeat the process, it works every time.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Wed 23 Jul, 2008 11:00 pm
okie wrote:
Uh, uh, uh, um, I thought Obama was running for president of the U.S.? Is he lost? Does he think he is running now in Germany?


He' here (better: in Berlin) today.

And besides that's he's quite a 'darling' for most Germans, it's developed to a 'Obamania' in Berlin and amongst Berliners.
Another, more campaign-related point certainly is that most US-citzens in Berlin (still) mainly 'Hillary-guided' (= the main [political] clubs/associations are run by Clinton-supporters]).
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Diest TKO
 
  2  
Wed 23 Jul, 2008 11:18 pm
I'm pleased with Obama. I feel more confident everyday with him as my candidate. I can still remember when Edwards left the race and how I felt nervous picking a new candidate. I'm still a huge Edwards fan, but I'm very excited for Obama.

T
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 24 Jul, 2008 12:45 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
He' here (better: in Berlin) today.
... but the U.S. Embassy in Berlin has instructed Foreign Service personnel stationed there not to attend Obama's public rally today, which the State Department this week labeled a "partisan political activity" prohibited under its regulations for those serving overseas.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 24 Jul, 2008 02:41 am
In Berlin, at the Victory Statue tonight:
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4264/69204290ny8.jpg

:wink:

He arrived in Berlin already

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/3240/10984925ys7.jpg
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Butrflynet
 
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Thu 24 Jul, 2008 03:54 am
Are you close enough to be going to the rally Walter?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 24 Jul, 2008 04:09 am
Butrflynet wrote:
Are you close enough to be going to the rally Walter?


Actually, I'd thought about it, Butrflynet.

But since we are going to Berlin in two weeks, and since it's a 4½ hours drive .... I'm only watching it on tv. (It's live on at least four channels.)
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cjhsa
 
  0  
Thu 24 Jul, 2008 06:12 am
If you guys like him so much, why not keep him?
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Thu 24 Jul, 2008 06:17 am
cjhsa wrote:
If you guys like him so much, why not keep him?


Yes please.

http://z.about.com/d/german/1/G/m/T/afroMassaqNegr150.jpg
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Thu 24 Jul, 2008 06:38 am
H2O_MAN wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
If you guys like him so much, why not keep him?


Yes please.

http://z.about.com/d/german/1/G/m/T/afroMassaqNegr150.jpg


Your German doesn't seem to be extremely good, you don't know what this book is about - or you are even more confused than I thought.

(Obama's half-sister lived and studied in Germany, and got her PhD here.)
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Thu 24 Jul, 2008 06:48 am
What's your point? Who cares about his half sister?
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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Thu 24 Jul, 2008 06:49 am
H2O_MAN wrote:
What's your point? Who cares about his half sister?


Well, what was your point of posting the pic of a book about Nazi Germany?
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Thu 24 Jul, 2008 06:53 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
H2O_MAN wrote:
What's your point? Who cares about his half sister?


Well, what was your point of posting the pic of a book about Nazi Germany?


Walter Hinteler wrote:
In Berlin, at the Victory Statue tonight:
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4264/69204290ny8.jpg

:wink:

He arrived in Berlin already

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/3240/10984925ys7.jpg
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Walter Hinteler
 
  2  
Thu 24 Jul, 2008 06:57 am
Massaquoi was a GI, studied journalism at the University of Illinois, was editor at Jet magazine and managing editor of Ebony magazine ...
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