Obama '08?

snood wrote:

It's all remarks like "BET Q&A" deserve.

Do you think Obama has had any hardball questions asked of him?

The answer is NO.

Obama has only been asked softball questions one would expect from BET.

Speaking of Obama's oratory skills, which I have never swallowed by the way, Rush had this yesterday, using clips of a press conference, almost 20% of Obamas's words were "uh, uh, um, uhh, etc."

OBAMA: -- uh, uh, uh, you know, uh, uh, uh, uhh, is...? Uh, is of -- of their work, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, we, uh, uh, I called, uh, uh, and I'm -- I'm -- Uh, with, uh, uh, as, uh, that, uh, and uh, uh, um, uh -- And we have to do this, uh, uh. As -- as well as, eh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. Well, uh. I, uh, uh, uh, um. We, uh, and, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. Uh, now, uh, right now and then identify if -- if, uh, you want to, uh, uh, uhhhh. Ummmm. That's -- that's a bunch. Umm, so let me tick these off. Um, it is true that, uh, uh, uh, uhhh, uh, uh. What, uh, uhhh, uh, and, uh, uh, in I-iraq, uh, uh, are seen as, uh -- and so, uh, uh, uhhh, uh, uh, and if I was -- i-if I were in his shoes, uh, uh, uhh, and so, uh, a, uh, um, uh, from some -- someplace else, uh, theeee, uh -- and, uh, t'see, uhhh, that, uhhh --

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_072208/content/01125109.guest.html

Now to be accurate, Rush clipped and pasted the montage together, but let us be honest, Obama is very bad at equivocating, and he has way more "uhs" than most anyone. He doesn't have good answers, so he gives these patented answers filled with maybes, ifs, uh, uh, what ifs, and basically not much of a straight answer on anything.

I recognized this in his book, he had a very very tough time taking a solid position, but instead he discussed all the possible positions, good points, bad points, which I already knew, but I wanted to know what his was, but after reading the book I still didn't know. I also watched many of the debates, and learned not much, but alot of "uh's" and alot of generalities. The guy is pretty good at speaking in generalities, but lousy at speaking specifically about anything.

And he is even on record for chastising reporters in Iraq for expecting specific answers.

Okay, specifics then, cyclops, based on what Obama says, what does he intend to do in Iraq? And Afghanistan? I would like to know which one of his answers is correct?

H2O_MAN wrote:

snood wrote:

It's all remarks like "BET Q&A" deserve.

Do you think Obama has had any hardball questions asked of him?

The answer is NO.

Obama has only been asked softball questions one would expect from BET.

How would you know you ignorant fool? 30 seconds on Google would have revealed that BET was strongly in the Hillary Camp, not Obama's, and in FACT; it's gazillionaire owner struck Obama with one of the first/hardest shots about his past drug use. Clearly, again, you're opining purely from ignorance and since you have/had NO IDEA what's transpired between Obama and BET; Race is the only thing left that could have prompted you to make such an idiotic statement.

For clarity:

Obama doesn't get pushed into enough hard questions <- Reasonable objection...

"The dumbmasses will never realize this as long as the big
3 press continues to ask BET type questions of Obama". <- Pure racist idiocy as demonstrated above...

.... most if not all of the troops out by 16 months, or as the Iraqis seem to want, 2010....
Cycloptichron

Cycloptichorn wrote:

.... most if not all of the troops out by 16 months, or as the Iraqis seem to want, 2010....
Cycloptichron

So it isn't 16 months at all then. Or it was until he actually gathered a little information. Actually, I don't think any commander would recommend a timetable based on a specific number of months, nor when the rubber hits the road, the Iraqis either. Which is what the Bush policy has been all along.

He's right in this case, there has been a clear pattern of racist remarks by the same jerk.

Cycloptichorn

I'm not pregidous

You don't seem to understand who the Commander is; it is the president, not the armed forces. The armed forces serve the decisions of the commander in chief, not the other way around.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

You don't seem to understand who the Commander is; it is the president, not the armed forces. The armed forces serve the decisions of the commander in chief, not the other way around.

Cycloptichorn

That is true, cyclops, but just a couple of big problems with that. First, Obama has finally said he would listen to the commanders to help him make the right decision, and secondly, a CIC should want to win the war in Iraq, right, and to do that he should listen to the experts, and hopefully take at least some of their advice. Also, I am not aware that he even talked with them or considered their opinions before his 16 month proclamation. I don't mind a CIC to make decisions, great, but if he doesn't even listen to his commanders, then he is not doing his job. And he is totally irresponsible. We are not only paying the president, we are also paying the armed forces for all the expertise there. I do not want a president that shoots off his mouth about something he knows nothing about, and that is what has happened here.

, and secondly, a CIC should want to win the war in Iraq,

Cycloptichorn wrote:

He's right in this case, there has been a clear pattern of racist remarks by the same jerk.

Cycloptichorn

I haven't read every remark by H2OMAN, but this I know, I have been called a bigot more than once by Bill, and as a result I think his opinions are not worth considering anymore. I don't know what his particular problem is, but every time he posts, it has a good chance of being something along those lines.

okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

You don't seem to understand who the Commander is; it is the president, not the armed forces. The armed forces serve the decisions of the commander in chief, not the other way around.

Cycloptichorn

That is true, cyclops, but just a couple of big problems with that. First, Obama has finally said he would listen to the commanders to help him make the right decision, and secondly, a CIC should want to win the war in Iraq, right, and to do that he should listen to the experts, and hopefully take at least some of their advice. Also, I am not aware that he even talked with them or considered their opinions before his 16 month proclamation. I don't mind a CIC to make decisions, great, but if he doesn't even listen to his commanders, then he is not doing his job. And he is totally irresponsible. We are not only paying the president, we are also paying the armed forces for all the expertise there. I do not want a president that shoots off his mouth about something he knows nothing about, and that is what has happened here.

here's your problem

Quote:

, and secondly, a CIC should want to win the war in Iraq,

You are so caught up in bullshit Republican memes, you can't even consider another path of action. I really don't care what your opinion is of what the CiC should 'want.' It's immaterial.

If you are against presidental candidates talking about things they don't understand, are you interested in some interesting quotes of John McCain doing this, Okie? For that might change your mind about your vote, if you are truly interested in such things as a criteria.

Cycloptichorn

Cycloptichorn wrote:

He's right in this case, there has been a clear pattern of racist remarks by the same jerk.

Cycloptichorn

I haven't read every remark by H2OMAN, but this I know, I have been called a bigot more than once by Bill, and as a result I think his opinions are not worth considering anymore. I don't know what his particular problem is, but every time he posts, it has a good chance of being something along those lines.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

okie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

You don't seem to understand who the Commander is; it is the president, not the armed forces. The armed forces serve the decisions of the commander in chief, not the other way around.

Cycloptichorn

That is true, cyclops, but just a couple of big problems with that. First, Obama has finally said he would listen to the commanders to help him make the right decision, and secondly, a CIC should want to win the war in Iraq, right, and to do that he should listen to the experts, and hopefully take at least some of their advice. Also, I am not aware that he even talked with them or considered their opinions before his 16 month proclamation. I don't mind a CIC to make decisions, great, but if he doesn't even listen to his commanders, then he is not doing his job. And he is totally irresponsible. We are not only paying the president, we are also paying the armed forces for all the expertise there. I do not want a president that shoots off his mouth about something he knows nothing about, and that is what has happened here.

here's your problem

Quote:

, and secondly, a CIC should want to win the war in Iraq,

You are so caught up in bullshit Republican memes, you can't even consider another path of action. I really don't care what your opinion is of what the CiC should 'want.' It's immaterial.

If you are against presidental candidates talking about things they don't understand, are you interested in some interesting quotes of John McCain doing this, Okie? For that might change your mind about your vote, if you are truly interested in such things as a criteria.

Cycloptichorn

So your fall back position is well, McCain doesn't know anything about some things, so if Obama doesn't, it doesn't matter? One problem with that is the Iraq situation has been front and center for how many years now, and Obama's stances on Iraq have been probably the one issue that has propelled him to where he is, but now you apparently admit it doesn't matter if he knows anything about it before coming out with his solutions, but now it turns out his solutions were never practical, as his detractors have been pointing out that obvious fact how long now, cyclops?

"ME NOT PREJUDICE," said the knuckle-dragging mouth-breather known only as H20_MAN as he put on his white hood. Later, after the cross-burning, his buddies and he would sit around in a big circle and jerk off while talking about how much they hate fags and coons. H20_MAN was excited. He had even forgotten to beat his wife today in his haste to make it to the big cross-burning/circle jerk.