mysteryman, talk about nuts this story is nuts. Bushie is proven to be a liar once again. And AWOL. Tape: Bush, Chertoff Warned Before Katrina By MARGARET EBRAHIM and JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writers
Wed Mar 1, 5:04 PM ET
WASHINGTON - In dramatic and sometimes agonizing terms, federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his homeland security chief before Hurricane Katrina struck that the storm could breach levees, risk lives in New Orleans' Superdome and overwhelm rescuers, according to confidential video footage of the briefings.
Bush didn't ask a single question during the final government-wide briefing the day before Katrina struck on Aug. 29 but assured soon-to-be-battered state officials: "We are fully prepared."
Six days of footage and transcripts obtained by The Associated Press show in excruciating detail that while federal officials anticipated the tragedy that unfolded in New Orleans and elsewhere along the Gulf Coast, they were fatally slow to realize they had not mustered enough resources to deal with the unprecedented disaster.
Linked by secure video, Bush's bravado on Aug. 29 starkly contrasts with the dire warnings his disaster chief and a cacophony of federal, state and local officials provided during the four days before the storm.
A top hurricane expert voiced "grave concerns" about the levees and then- Federal Emergency Management Agency chief Michael Brown told the president and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff that he feared there weren't enough disaster teams to help evacuees at the Superdome.
"I'm concerned about ... their ability to respond to a catastrophe within a catastrophe," Brown told his bosses the afternoon before Katrina made landfall.
Some of the footage conflicts with the defenses that federal, state and local officials have made in trying to deflect blame and minimize the political fallout from the failed Katrina response:
_Homeland Security officials have said the "fog of war" blinded them early on to the magnitude of the disaster. But the video and transcripts show federal and local officials discussed threats clearly, reviewed long-made plans and understood Katrina would wreak devastation of historic proportions. "I'm sure it will be the top 10 or 15 when all is said and done," National Hurricane Center's Max Mayfield warned the day Katrina lashed the Gulf Coast.
"I don't buy the `fog of war' defense," Brown told the AP in an interview Wednesday. "It was a fog of bureaucracy."
_Bush declared four days after the storm, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees" that gushed deadly flood waters into New Orleans. But the transcripts and video show there was plenty of talk about that possibility ?- and Bush was worried too.
How could anyone imagine flying planes into buildings? Well, Tom Clancy for one!
Roxxxanne wrote:How could anyone imagine flying planes into buildings? Well, Tom Clancy for one!
I have read every Tom Clancy novel,and I dont remember that.
Tell me,which one of his boks has that scenario in it??
mysteryman wrote:Roxxxanne wrote:How could anyone imagine flying planes into buildings? Well, Tom Clancy for one!
I have read every Tom Clancy novel,and I dont remember that.
Tell me,which one of his boks has that scenario in it??
This is common knowledge. If you are not aware of this, you need to spend your time keeping informed rather than chronically bloviating trying to offer excuses for the most inept admin this country has ever know.
Try typing g-o-o-g-l-e into your browser.
mysteryman wrote:I have read every Tom Clancy novel,and I dont remember that.
Either your memory is going, mysteryman, or you missed at least one book.
thats the closest hes got to the front line............
Roxxxanne wrote:mysteryman wrote:Roxxxanne wrote:How could anyone imagine flying planes into buildings? Well, Tom Clancy for one!
I have read every Tom Clancy novel,and I dont remember that.
Tell me,which one of his boks has that scenario in it??
This is common knowledge. If you are not aware of this, you need to spend your time keeping informed rather than chronically bloviating trying to offer excuses for the most inept admin this country has ever know.
Try typing g-o-o-g-l-e into your browser.
At the very end of
Debt of Honor by Tom Clancy.
A pilot for JAL, (Japanese Airline) whose brother and son were both killed in the fight against the Americans, chooses to fly a 747 into the Capitol Building just as the President is giving a speech before both Houses of Congress.
stevewonder wrote:
thats the closest hes got to the front line............
So you are saying that a Commander in Chief has to have seen combat to be allowed to send troops into 'harms way' ?
If so, you would have had to go back to LBJ and JFK to find a Commander in Chief who would be allowed to send troops into combat.
That of course is ridiculous.
MANY of our Presidents have sent our boys to war, having never 'seen the elephant' themselves. The current holder of that office is not unique in that regard.
Fedral wrote:Roxxxanne wrote:mysteryman wrote:Roxxxanne wrote:How could anyone imagine flying planes into buildings? Well, Tom Clancy for one!
I have read every Tom Clancy novel,and I dont remember that.
Tell me,which one of his boks has that scenario in it??
This is common knowledge. If you are not aware of this, you need to spend your time keeping informed rather than chronically bloviating trying to offer excuses for the most inept admin this country has ever know.
Try typing g-o-o-g-l-e into your browser.
At the very end of
Debt of Honor by Tom Clancy.
A pilot for JAL, (Japanese Airline) whose brother and son were both killed in the fight against the Americans, chooses to fly a 747 into the Capitol Building just as the President is giving a speech before both Houses of Congress.
Thanx,
I frgot about that.
I havent read that book in a while.
blueflame1 wrote:The hidden agenda is to levitate the White House until Bushie resigns.
cool. who is designated to channel abby hoffman? will there be ripple and good weed?? gotta have the right tools for the job, ya know. :wink:
