have you ever noticed?

and i was going to pipe in with "kippers."

pikers...

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Have you ever noticed that virtually nobody is willing, not to say eager, to question the underlying assumptions of his or her pet arguments--me included?
In that sense, we are not being very philosophical, but we are having fun dealing with the cleverness of others and exercising our own brains--which, for old farts like me, is very important.

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That's because having a tolerance for politicans and therefore political views is like tolerating a bad meal. You can often eat a bad meal because you might be hungry but then find it really isn't anything like what is described on the menu.

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Good observation, Wiz, but I also think that all of life may be characterized as a bad meal, except, of course, for those who are blessed with an enormous appetite.
Amor Fati.

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There's a gourmet meal here and there. Actually, I am going out to dinner with a client in a few days at Fleming's Steak House in Fascist Island thanks to AMEX rewards. It will make MacDonalds taste even worse than ever (not that I ever frequent that place). That's a metaphor which also applies to politics and politicians. Once a real leader and consummate statesman gains power, it's really distressing to have to try and accept the mediocrity of someone like Bush -- true that he is right around the same position in the middle of the list of best Presidents as Clinton. Oh, what a stain on a black dress can wrought.

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blatham wrote:

In my archaeology studies, I read a translation of graffiti found on a Roman wall from a couple of thousand years ago. It said (paraphrasing from memory)..."What have things come to? We are led by men who care only for themselves and in these dishonorable days the young are spoiled and lazy and show no understanding of or respect for traditions." If george didn't have that O' in his name, I'd suspect a grumpy ancestor.

Bernie always gets things backwards. It is he, not I, that constantly decries our leadership and the direction of modern currents in our life, while I cheerfully affirm them. As to the Roman ancestry - it is a distant possibility, considering the Celtic sacking of Rome in the 5th century BC.

Interesting also to note his self-association with Socrates: I prefer Nicias.

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Socrates wot? Well I guess everyone needs an imaginary friend at some point in their life.