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An Abu Ghraib Photo We Didn't See on the Front...of the NYTs

 
 
Zippo
 
Reply Thu 16 Feb, 2006 11:56 am
An Abu Ghraib Photo We Didn't See on the Front Page of the NYTs

http://www.counterpunch.org/abughraib.jpg

More photos :

http://www.uruknet.info/?s1=55&p=20656&s2=15

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/02/16/abu_ghraib/portfolio.html

http://www.rotten.com/library/crime/prison/abu-ghraib/

http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/iraqis_tortured/index2.htm
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Thu 16 Feb, 2006 12:08 pm
I am now boycotting all Australian Goods and plan to later burn an Australian flag for having the audacity to publish these depictions.

Any extremist Americans with me?
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woiyo
 
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Reply Thu 16 Feb, 2006 12:15 pm
McGentrix wrote:
I am now boycotting all Australian Goods and plan to later burn an Australian flag for having the audacity to publish these depictions.

Any extremist Americans with me?


But it's only a picture. Can't we all just get along?

You'd think it was a cartoon or something really serious!
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 16 Feb, 2006 12:16 pm
Heh, good one

Cycloptichorn
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Zippo
 
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Reply Thu 16 Feb, 2006 12:19 pm
http://img91.exs.cx/img91/1760/kickdooredit7gc.jpg

"The Americans brought electricity to my ass before they brought it to my house"
~ former Abu Ghraib detainee

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CNN Blames the Photos,
Not the Torture


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CNN Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr should be given some kind of award for the most outrageously off-target reporting on the newly released photos and videos of U.S. torture and abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. In her numerous appearances during the morning news cycle on CNN after the images were first broadcast on Australia's SBS television, Starr described what she saw as the "root of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal" as such:
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revel
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 07:36 am
Good God, I couldn't even get through them. How anyone can even make a joke just disgusts me beyond words.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 11:24 am
Yet the TIMES won't print a cartoon???
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revel
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 01:01 pm
I remember when I was a child and I saw pictures of naked and abused people in hospitals for the mentally ill. It was degrading but necessary to expose the extent of the abuse they suffered.

Showing these pictures of actual people who suffered from abuse from our hands of the US military is necessary to expose the extent of the abuse practiced, to show it was more than just a frat night with a few bad apples like it was spinned by the administration.

The pictures which are meant to represent Mohammad with explosives in his turban are an insult to Muslims as a religion and as a people. It is understandable why newspapers would be reluctant to show those pictures out of respect to the people of Islam.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 02:22 pm
Ok, I looked thriugh those pictures and found nothing to be proud of, but neither did I see evidence of torture.

It seems they had A LOT of extra panties laying around and it also seems that pictures can not explain everything. I saw a bunch of naked and clothed men in various positions of restraint.

I also know that investigations have already been completed and those guilty of crimes have been punished. This is nothing more than pulling a scab off an old wound.
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Zippo
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 02:33 pm
McGentrix,

What you saw here is just the tip of the iceberg.

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THE United States' idea of what constitutes torture "is not the same as ours and doesn't appear to coincide with that of most civilised countries", a senior British High Court judge has said.


source
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 03:36 pm
http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/06.02.16.Flimflammable-X.gif
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 07:32 pm
McGentrix wrote:
I am now boycotting all Australian Goods and plan to later burn an Australian flag for having the audacity to publish these depictions.

Any extremist Americans with me?


Of course it is your right to boycott anything you like, McGentrix. For what ever reason.

But honestly, I don't understand why anyone should take offence at the mere fact that any media outlet dared to publish such photographs. Why should we not see what is actually happening? This is being done in our names. This is the reality of what is happening. I think we have a responsibility to know. No amount of the weasel words like "collateral damage", "friendly fire", and - what's that sanitised term for taking prisoners to a third (obliging) country to be tortured?... can disguise the reality. Yes, these images are extremely ugly, as were those of the beheading of innocent hostages, by the other side. All of this just tells me that the business of war is totally abhorrent & achieves little else than a senseless waste of innocent civilian lives. And also the lives lives of the young conscripted fighters, on both sides. I have no problem with anything that educates us all about the real nature of war.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 07:36 pm
McGentrix would defend the sodomy of a nine year old Arab boy in order to defend anything to do with the military and the old red white and blue.

Of course I could be mistaken..... it's just my opinion
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 07:52 pm
And speaking of children caught up in this madness & images we shouldn't, apparently, be allowed to see:

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/02/08/cartoon_0902_gallery__470x332.jpg
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 08:01 pm
the really disgusting thing is that the little moocher will probably end up on some sort of government assistance .......right McG?
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 08:09 pm
BTW, that was an Australian cartoonist's response to criticism of the Muslim "cartoon outrage" troubles around the world. I guess he was trying to show just why it was that they seemed so angry at mere cartoons being published.
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