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US must accept the International Court of Justice!

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Solve et Coagula
 
Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 08:07 am
For the sake of International Human rights, the US and all other countries must accept the International Court of Justice... otherwise there is no guarantee that torture and other acts against humanity will be stopped!!!

What do you think?

best wishes from Switzerland
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 08:09 am
I believe the US has told the ICC to "suck it."
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woiyo
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 08:17 am
Re: US must accept the International Court of Justice!
Solve et Coagula wrote:
For the sake of International Human rights, the US and all other countries must accept the International Court of Justice... otherwise there is no guarantee that torture and other acts against humanity will be stopped!!!

What do you think?

best wishes from Switzerland


I think not. Since it is the so called Judicial Arm of the UN, we already know of their anti US Bias and the fact that they to date have done NOTHING to eliminate humas rights violations in many member Nations.

That plus the fact that McGentrix has, in a nut shell, summed up how we feel about the ICJ.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 08:58 am
McGentrix wrote:
I believe the US has told the ICC to "suck it."

Not in so many words (although John Bolton may have said that recently -- I don't know), but then the real question isn't whether the US has told the ICC to "suck it," but rather whether the US should tell the ICC to "suck it."
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 09:17 am
The usual John Wayne wannbes roll out with "We're the United By God States of America and we don't have to obey a goddam thing if we don't want to so back off sissy or I'll get someone elses children to whip your ass while I pose"
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 09:22 am
Quit being a nattering nabob bear.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 09:25 am
or what?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 09:29 am
Or I will ask again. Then I will use that wrath that frightens lesser men that you so fear... Laughing
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 10:04 am
McGentrix wrote:
Or I will ask again. Then I will use that wrath that frightens lesser men that you so fear... Laughing


boy that one stuck with you didn't it? keep flattering yourself.... Laughing
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fishin
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 04:05 pm
Re: US must accept the International Court of Justice!
Solve et Coagula wrote:
For the sake of International Human rights, the US and all other countries must accept the International Court of Justice... otherwise there is no guarantee that torture and other acts against humanity will be stopped!!!

What do you think?


I think it is entirely possible that "International Human Rights" (whatever those might be) can survive without an International Court of Justice and that you are mistaken if you actually believe that this court "guarantees" anything. IOW, IMO, you overstate the case here. Wink
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Solve et Coagula
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 04:25 pm
alrighty guys, it would be also for your own protection (US-Citizens)... but either way i am curious how the things will work out... keep me posted guys...

best wishes from Switzerland

lwwb
Roger
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 04:28 pm
Nuh-uh . . .
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 04:29 pm
What the cute little dog said goes for me too.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 04:30 pm
Don't drag me into your sty, MOAN . . .
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 04:33 pm
Well, I can see you are just as friendly as ever, aren't you? Nice to see you too. Laughing

Rephrase: Me and all the pigs in my sty decline your generous offer to join. Thank you.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 04:33 pm
Momma, Setants cannot deal with either acceptance or approval.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 04:35 pm
It's ok georgebob1, I'm rather partial to cats anyway. :wink:
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Thomas
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jan, 2006 05:35 pm
Re: US must accept the International Court of Justice!
Solve et Coagula wrote:
For the sake of International Human rights, the US and all other countries must accept the International Court of Justice... otherwise there is no guarantee that torture and other acts against humanity will be stopped!!!

What do you think?

best wishes from Switzerland

I think there is no guarantee that torture and other acts against humanity will be stopped. This is true no matter what nations do about the International Court of Justice.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jan, 2006 10:26 am
Re: US must accept the International Court of Justice!
Solve et Coagula wrote:
For the sake of International Human rights, the US and all other countries must accept the International Court of Justice... otherwise there is no guarantee that torture and other acts against humanity will be stopped!!!

What do you think?

best wishes from Switzerland



I'm generally for it myself.

I think I understand the US' reluctance though. There are a lot of extremist organizations in the anti-war movement which continuously make false allegations that we've violated various laws of war, sometimes by accusing us of things we haven't done, and sometimes by pretending that the law bans things that it really doesn't.

Sometimes they even hold fake trials to find us guilty, and then they run around falsely claiming we've been found guilty of war crimes.


Because of this, there is a widespread impression here that the ICC will be used to convict the US on false charges, while letting actual abusers go free.

I happen to think this is incorrect, and the ICC will ignore the frivolous charges against us.

Maybe when the court gets up and running and they form a track record, some of the fears about it will dissipate.
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old europe
 
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Reply Sat 16 Sep, 2006 06:31 am
bump
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