If MA has some pathological need to be qbused then the team of Bear, K. Can, Slap, Set and Ratzenhofer could probably be of use.
We're expensive but we do good work.
BBB
Momma Angel just posted this on Eva's thread.
Eva,
This will be my last post on A2K. I greatly appreciate you inviting me to this thread, but I will not be returning. I think it is best. God bless you for your gentle spirit. I hope you understand.
Yes, I suspect she read your last post to this thread, BBB, and reacted.
Ah well. <sigh>
It's very sad. For several reasons. As soz's quote said, we all have something valuable to contribute. We had so many fine minds here already. Perhaps her contribution was heart.
Re: BBB
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:To prove my point, Momma Angel is already posting today on the Eva's Wine Cellar thread.
She ain't quittin A2K.
Well, we already knew that, she said so in this thread. Lots of people did tell her to please, stay, after all.
Good point by Green Witch though...
Green Witch
Green Witch wrote:Early in Momma's appearance I PM'd her and told her about a another forum where I knew she would feel more welcome. At the time I thought she was looking to make connections with kindred spirits and had run up against some tough, smart eggs on this site. She was gracious about my PM, but I soon noticed she kept posting topics that were bound to bring out hissing and punches from others. It confused me at first, it contradicted my idea of someone emulating the life the Jesus - why look for these endless, petty fights? Why keep beating the same dead horse?
I agree with others who have stated that this is about getting attention. It is also about loneliness, the kind of loneliness that allows for even bad attention to be perceived as good. As marriage counselors will tell you - when one partner starts picking fights with the other it's a sign that the belligerent one really just wants more attention and control. Over time it leads to more hostile attacks by both parties, eventually one or both get so hurt that apologizes are meaningless and there is nothing they can do but go their own separate ways.
You are right on target. I could support MOAN if she was honest with us about her neediness. She wasn't and still isn't. She inflicted BS on us and blamed us for her problems. Perhaps professional help would be useful to help her recover from her self-inflicted wounds. I nearly always respond to people who are crying out for help until I realize they are using me to reinforce their behavior.
BBB
Why do people feel such a need to continue to denigrate MOAN?
If she just wants attention, like you claim, then the best thing to do would be to simply ignore her. If she wants to go let her go.
Even if all she wants is a little attention, whats the big deal? Everybody likes to be part of a group and feel wanted.
I agree, jp. A LOT of people here want attention. Some get it by posting ridiculous, silly stories. Some get it by being provocative. There are lots of ways. Let's not be so judgmental.
I don't think A2K will be enriched by MA leaving. I have taken my shots at her, but also have gained a certain respect for her constant attempts to understand and be considerate of others and their views. I have her e-mail address ... I will send her a note. She has to learn to not let the hardasses (of which I am definitely one) get to her. I think she is MOST sincere, and probably one of the sweetest people here on A2K.
Anon
Momma Angel, as you know, I don't post very often on a2k, but this is something I need to address.
What Green Witch said is true, but it doesn't mean that you are unwelcome here. Just look at all the threads you have started that have gone on for many pages. That indicates real interest on the poeple who post replies (whether they want to admit it or not). You obviously have something to offer: perhaps you make an irresistibly easy target or perhaps you start those somewhat cynical brains thinking about their own beliefs.
I too get tired of people picking on you, but there does seem to be a need by many Christians to be the martyrs of every conversation where Christianity is vigorously questioned.
You would obviously never tell your more verbal ranters to just "F"*** off, but I will do it for you if you can't find the grit to do it yourself. I really like most of the people who torment you (Im madly in love with one of them) but it so often looks like lions at the gate. Sometimes they protest too much and take too much joy in making clever but derogatory statements. So you are an easy target, that, to me, makes their replies all the more cheap.
So, to start, I just told Dys to "F"*** off.
He just grinned....this might take a little more work than I had anticipated...
Please don't leave. At least stay long enough to see if Dys can be softened up (not too much or he wouldn't be the Dys I love).
Eva wrote:I agree, jp. A LOT of people here want attention. Some get it by posting ridiculous, silly stories. Some get it by being provocative. There are lots of ways. Let's not be so judgmental.
can you give some examples of these people?
nimh wrote:dlowan wrote:Grin?
You're an Osteichthyes
OK, so it made me go blub-blub-blub in a particular happy way.
(I dont actually know what an Osteichthyes is, but I suppose it has something to do with my fishiness)
What bothers me rather about, you know, the way I go blub-blub-blub, is a certain homo-erotic aspect to it... I mean, look.
Don't let it bother you.
And, re your long post, well said.
You're not just a bony fish, are you?
blueveinedthrobber wrote:Eva wrote:I agree, jp. A LOT of people here want attention. Some get it by posting ridiculous, silly stories. Some get it by being provocative. There are lots of ways. Let's not be so judgmental.
can you give some examples of these people?
I like telling silly stories and being provocative.
Is that wrong?
Hi Momma Angel,
I've never posted on any of your threads, but I've read some of them.
I don't spend a lot of time on the S&R forum, but I think you've got a lot of courage by speaking your mind the way you have. Especially since the majority of the people here don't seem to share your opinion.
I mean, it's easy to be "bold" and "outspoken" when 98% of the room agrees with you. Not so easy when they don't.
I've also noticed that there seems to be a few people here who are the "stars" of the board. They can post on any thread at any time and pretty much say anything they want to and get away with it (unless they use foul language or say something extremely outrageous and offensive).
But for the most part, these "stars" seem to have a free pass from their adoring audience. They can be as arrogant, smug, and insulting as they like, and everyone thinks it's just hilarious. No one challenges them.
That can make it difficult to know where the boundaries are. It seems like a few people can push the envelope as far and as often as they wish, while others are attacked for making statments, or starting threads, that are far more innocuous.
Then there is the fact that religion and politics are both very "intense" topics. It's often difficult for people to keep their emotions out of a discussion about either one.
I think one's stand on religion is such a very personal thing, it's something everything has to arrive at in their own way, in their own time.
But I think we can consider ourselves lucky to live in a country where, for the most part, people are pretty much "live and let live" when it comes to religion. Or, we can openly debate the subject, even if it does get intense, even if voices get raised.
Momma, you sound like a nice person. I'd hate to see you leave A2K. Especially since you've made some friends here.
I agree with some of the others, maybe you just need to take a break from the board for a while. Or better yet, try visiting some of the less "intense" forums! They can be fun! :wink:
blueveinedthrobber wrote:Eva wrote:I agree, jp. A LOT of people here want attention. Some get it by posting ridiculous, silly stories. Some get it by being provocative. There are lots of ways. Let's not be so judgmental.
can you give some examples of these people?
Some us...(ahem)...like to post ridiculous, silly stories AND be provocative. Preferably at the same time.
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