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The Liberals Who Stole the Opposition's Party

 
 
Mapleleaf
 
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Reply Mon 21 Apr, 2003 02:32 pm
What's for dinner?
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Violet Lake
 
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Reply Mon 21 Apr, 2003 02:40 pm
An American feast - A fat & juicy grilled burger, with provolone cheese, lettuce, tomato, and mayo. A pickle on the side, and an order of fried beer batter onion rings. For desert I'll probably have a Klondike with caramel and peanuts. All delivered to my door with a smile Smile
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steissd
 
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Reply Mon 21 Apr, 2003 02:42 pm
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Violet Lake
 
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Reply Mon 21 Apr, 2003 04:38 pm
The fight between the neoconservatives & the Buchananites is intersting in its intensity. Recently, I posted an essay by Pat Buchanan that aims to expose the neocon's hidden agenda, ties to Israel, & their control of the President & the Conservative establishment.

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6612&highlight=

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We charge that a cabal of polemicists and public officials seek to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in America's interests. We charge them with colluding with Israel to ignite those wars and destroy the Oslo Accords. We charge them with deliberately damaging U.S. relations with every state in the Arab world that defies Israel or supports the Palestinian people's right to a homeland of their own. We charge that they have alienated friends and allies all over the Islamic and Western world through their arrogance, hubris, and bellicosity.

Not in our lifetimes has America been so isolated from old friends. Far worse, President Bush is being lured into a trap baited for him by these neocons that could cost him his office and cause America to forfeit years of peace won for us by the sacrifices of two generations in the Cold War.

They charge us with anti-Semitism--i.e., a hatred of Jews for their faith, heritage, or ancestry. False. The truth is, those hurling these charges harbor a "passionate attachment" to a nation not our own that causes them to subordinate the interests of their own country and to act on an assumption that, somehow, what's good for Israel is good for America.


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The Neoconservatives

Who are the neoconservatives? The first generation were ex-liberals, socialists, and Trotskyites, boat-people from the McGovern revolution who rafted over to the GOP at the end of conservatism's long march to power with Ronald Reagan in 1980.

A neoconservative, wrote Kevin Phillips back then, is more likely to be a magazine editor than a bricklayer. Today, he or she is more likely to be a resident scholar at a public policy institute such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) or one of its clones like the Center for Security Policy or the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA). As one wag writes, a neocon is more familiar with the inside of a think tank than an Abrams tank.

Almost none came out of the business world or military, and few if any came out of the Goldwater campaign. The heroes they invoke are Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Harry Truman, Martin Luther King, and Democratic Senators Henry "Scoop" Jackson (Wash.) and Pat Moynihan (N.Y.).

All are interventionists who regard Stakhanovite support of Israel as a defining characteristic of their breed. Among their luminaries are Jeane Kirkpatrick, Bill Bennett, Michael Novak, and James Q. Wilson.

Their publications include the Weekly Standard, Commentary, the New Republic, National Review, and the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal. Though few in number, they wield disproportionate power through control of the conservative foundations and magazines, through their syndicated columns, and by attaching themselves to men of power.


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On Sept. 20, forty neoconservatives sent an open letter to the White House instructing President Bush on how the war on terror must be conducted. Signed by Bennett, Podhoretz, Kirkpatrick, Perle, Kristol, and Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer, the letter was an ultimatum. To retain the signers' support, the president was told, he must target Hezbollah for destruction, retaliate against Syria and Iran if they refuse to sever ties to Hezbollah, and overthrow Saddam. Any failure to attack Iraq, the signers warned Bush, "will constitute an early and perhaps decisive surrender in the war on international terrorism."

Here was a cabal of intellectuals telling the Commander-in-Chief, nine days after an attack on America, that if he did not follow their war plans, he would be charged with surrendering to terror.


Mapleleaf & D'artagnan, thanks for the Rove article. He does indeed appear to be the brain behind Bush.
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Violet Lake
 
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Reply Thu 24 Apr, 2003 09:24 am
It's nice to see that Newt is back on the scene Rolling Eyes

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Neocons Run Amok!
Republicans not with them are now the enemy, too
by Harold Meyerson


http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/23/powerlines-meyerson.php
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ferrous
 
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Reply Fri 25 Apr, 2003 07:32 am
Bravo
steissd wrote:
IMO, the main problem of the President is his inability to impress educated people. I think that he has high thinking abilities, but he is unable to deliver impressive speeches (it seems to me that he does not like to talk much at all)...


Stessd... your perception of educated people, is right on the mark. Educated, doesn't always imply intelligent.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Fri 25 Apr, 2003 08:00 am
Yeah, but that doesn't erase the difference between the street-smart, loud-mouthed bully running a protection business and the citizen-president with distinguished long record of public service whose goal is not personal gain. Both have educated themselves, but educated in what?!
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snood
 
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Reply Fri 25 Apr, 2003 08:08 am
And you say that he doesn't like to talk much, but you neglect to mention that he also isn't much on reading, which is a little more troubling.
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Violet Lake
 
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Reply Fri 25 Apr, 2003 09:42 am
Hey... at least Dan Quayle isn't his vice president!

Imagine that... the "Dumb and Dumber" presidency Laughing
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 25 Apr, 2003 09:47 am
Violet

I never thought I'd ever say this, but Dan Quayle was a genius compared with Bush.
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