Case #503 against blind faith--Stem Cell Research

Anon-Voter wrote:

echi wrote:

Anon-Voter--

So, then there's the old question that if life begins at birth, do you think it's fine to abort a nine month old fetus? Is it the same as aborting one at nine weeks, or do you draw a line somewhere?

I do draw a line ... when it starts breathing on it's own. I suggest you direct your efforts to those that are here and quit worrying about blobs of cells.

Anon

So, two seconds before a child is born, it's not a child but just a blob of cells? Are you serious?

Momma Angel wrote:

Anon-Voter wrote:

echi wrote:

Anon-Voter--

So, then there's the old question that if life begins at birth, do you think it's fine to abort a nine month old fetus? Is it the same as aborting one at nine weeks, or do you draw a line somewhere?

I do draw a line ... when it starts breathing on it's own. I suggest you direct your efforts to those that are here and quit worrying about blobs of cells.

Anon

So, two seconds before a child is born, it's not a child but just a blob of cells? Are you serious?

Deadly serious! How many African babies have you adopted to keep them from dying excrutiating painful deaths?

Anon

Anon-Voter wrote:

I think I can answer most of your "questions" in with my post that you quoted. Yep, I went back and basically used my post to answer your questions!

No you didn't -- a neutral reader of your post will notice that your "answers" do not answer anything. Anyway, I see no point in continuing this conversation. I will stop addressing you, and would be grateful if you returned the favor.

Anon-Voter wrote:

Momma Angel wrote:

Anon-Voter wrote:

echi wrote:

Anon-Voter--

So, then there's the old question that if life begins at birth, do you think it's fine to abort a nine month old fetus? Is it the same as aborting one at nine weeks, or do you draw a line somewhere?

I do draw a line ... when it starts breathing on it's own. I suggest you direct your efforts to those that are here and quit worrying about blobs of cells.

Anon

So, two seconds before a child is born, it's not a child but just a blob of cells? Are you serious?

Deadly serious! How many African babies have you adopted to keep them from dying excrutiating painful deaths?

Anon

How many have you? So, you would advocate aborting a child two seconds befoe it is born in order to save the life of one already born?

Maybe we should move to the abortion thread?

Anon--
Please clarify what you believe. Does human life begin at birth, or does it begin when a child starts breathing? I don't want to have to argue against both at the same time.

Abortion is murder, by some definitions of the word. Yes, a living thing is dying.
My question is, so what?
'Rights' and 'justice' aren't inherant, they are arbitrarily given and taken away by those in power. Human life has no inherant value but what we give it.

real life wrote:

For those who doubt that an embryo with 150 cells is a living human being, I ask, how many cells does it require to be a living human being?

For me, it requires birth. I don't do unborn cells.

I do draw a line ... when it starts breathing on it's own.

You and Momma need to move to the abortion thread. I'm talking about stem cells.

echi, Momma.
If you are looking for a discussion of abortion you are on the wrong thread. Equating a fertilized embryo to a full cycle fetus is pure subterfuge and shows how empty your arguments are.

I haven't adopted any, but then, I'm not the one trying to make the problems worse with more cells that aren't fully developed and breathing!

Would I abort one to save one that's here? In a heartbeat if it were the choice of the woman bearing it. I'm not the one carrying it, therefore, unlike some, I don't presume to make their decisions for them.

Anon

echi
Come on, you can do better than that.

au1929 wrote:

echi
Come on, you can do better than that.

Don't be sure about that old friend! Happy New Gold One! Yea, I know, I know, it really doesn't mean gold

Anon

echi, Momma.
If you are looking for a discussion of abortion you are on the wrong thread.