Case #503 against blind faith--Stem Cell Research

This is what I have pointed out before. The discussion is over when one decides they are right and everyone else is wrong.

Momma Angel wrote:

This is what I have pointed out before. The discussion is over when one decides they are right and everyone else is wrong.

I disagree, this usually happens before a discussion even gets going.

I totally disagree with those who say he was elected despite his religious views therefore if he shoves them down your throat it is the will of the majority. In other words religious tyranny is an acceptable condition. To hell with the constitution and 200 years of justice.
Terrorism is not the greatest danger this nation faces. Religion and the intolerance that it always brings to the table is.
I have little doubt that those who say that would also be four square for a christian theocracy. I ask how different a concept is that from Iran with it's Moslem one.

Momma
This is a secular nation peopled with individuals of all beliefs. He has no right to make a decision which effects all based on his religious convictions.
Regarding the danger of religion. One need only look to history to see the damage that religion has wrought. Religion and government is a lethal mix.

I totally disagree with those who say he was elected despite his religious views therefore if he shoves them down your throat it is the will of the majority. In other words religious tyranny is an acceptable condition. To hell with the constitution and 200 years of justice.
Terrorism is not the greatest danger this nation faces. Religion and the intolerance that it always brings to the table is.
I have little doubt that those who say that would also be four square for a christian theocracy. I ask how different a concept is that from Iran with it's Moslem one.

November 3, 2004

President George W. Bush
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

Dear Mr. President:

The media tells us that you have received the largest number of popular votes of any president in America's history. Congratulations!

In your re-election, God has graciously granted America - though she doesn't deserve it - a reprieve from the agenda of paganism. You have been given a mandate. We the people expect your voice to be like the clear and certain sound of a trumpet. Because you seek the Lord daily, we who know the Lord will follow that kind of voice eagerly.

Don't equivocate. Put your agenda on the front burner and let it boil. You owe the liberals nothing. They despise you because they despise your Christ. Honor the Lord, and He will honor you.

Had your opponent won, I would have still given thanks, because the Bible says I must (I Thessalonians 5:18). It would have been hard, but because the Lord lifts up whom He will and pulls down whom He will, I would have done it. It is easy to rejoice today, because Christ has allowed you to be His servant in this nation for another presidential term. Undoubtedly, you will have opportunity to appoint many conservative judges and exercise forceful leadership with the Congress in passing legislation that is defined by biblical norm regarding the family, sexuality, sanctity of life, religious freedom, freedom of speech, and limited government. You have four years?a brief time only?to leave an imprint for righteousness upon this nation that brings with it the blessings of Almighty God.

Christ said, "If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my father honour" (John 12:26).

The student body, faculty, and staff at Bob Jones University commit ourselves to pray for you?that you would do right and honor the Savior. Pull out all the stops and make a difference. If you have weaklings around you who do not share your biblical values, shed yourself of them. Conservative Americans would love to see one president who doesn't care whether he is liked, but cares infinitely that he does right.

Best wishes.

Sincerely your friend,

Bob Jones III
President

BJIII:lw

PS: A few moments ago I read this letter to the students in Chapel. They applauded loudly their approval.

When I told them that Tom Daschle was no longer the minority leader of the Senate, they cheered again.

On occasion, Christians have not agreed with things you said during your first term. Nonetheless, we could not be more thankful that God has given you four more years to serve Him in the White House, never taking off your Christian faith and laying it aside as a man takes off a jacket, but living, speaking, and making decisions as one who knows the Bible to be eternally true.

anon--

What the hell are going on about? Who cares?

Then the only thing I can suggest is you lobby to have a law enacted that says anyone with any religious beliefs whatsoever cannot run for nor hold political office. I see no other way to keep someone's moral, ethical, religious, etc., standards out of it completely. Do you?

Ok, are we going to be reminded of the Crusades again? If so, let me know so I can get my avatar out of my robe with the cross.

MOAN,

Only YOU know if you are a fanatical Christian bastard. I did't say YOU were!! I don't know if you're one of the ignorant followers. Only you can decide if you fit in those categories!! If the shoe fits however, feel free to wear it!!

Anon

echi wrote:

anon--

What the hell are going on about? Who cares?

I doubt if you know much about anything that is going about, so it doesn't surprise me my point escapes you!!

Momma wrote

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Then the only thing I can suggest is you lobby to have a law enacted that says anyone with any religious beliefs whatsoever cannot run for nor hold political office. I see no other way to keep someone's moral, ethical, religious, etc., standards out of it completely. Do you?

Ok, are we going to be reminded of the Crusades again? If so, let me know so I can get my avatar out of my robe with the cross.

It is one thing to have religious beliefs and another foist them upon the public. The reason that Bush is against embryonic cell research is his religious beliefs That IMO is unconscionable.

In addition I would strongly suggest if you can find time to pull your head out of the book of fairy tales, your bible and read the history of religion, in particular the Christian religion and the damage it has promulgated for the last 1500 years.eg. Wars, massacres, burning, forced conversions, genocide and etc.

au1929 wrote:

Momma wrote

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Then the only thing I can suggest is you lobby to have a law enacted that says anyone with any religious beliefs whatsoever cannot run for nor hold political office. I see no other way to keep someone's moral, ethical, religious, etc., standards out of it completely. Do you?

Ok, are we going to be reminded of the Crusades again? If so, let me know so I can get my avatar out of my robe with the cross.

It is one thing to have religious beliefs and another foist them upon the public. The reason that Bush is against embryonic cell research is his religious beliefs That IMO is unconscionable.

In addition I would strongly suggest if you can find time to pull your head out of the book of fairy tales, your bible and read the history of religion, in particular the Christian religion and the damage it has promulgated for the last 1500 years.eg. Wars, massacres, burning, forced conversions, genocide and etc.

AU,

You forgot slavery!

AH Yes, Christian values at work!![/size]

Praise the lord ... how much is that nigga??

Anon

anon--

Thanks for destroying this thread. You cowardly pick up and run when you find that you can't respond intelligently to a straight question. Then you jump back in to spew vomit everywhere. I guess it really is true... we turn back into babies when we get old.

I wonder how long it will be before there is a backlash against the Christian {evangelical } community in response to it's campaign to force it's beliefs upon the public at large.