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Woman asks restaurant to remove 'offensive' Jesus sign

 
 
Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 03:26 pm
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McDonald's managers say the sign has been good for business. They say church groups have stopped by to eat, and some people who usually don't eat food from McDonald's have stopped by because of the sign.


Momma- I think that the people who erected the sign realized that they were located in an area that contained a lot of people who would be amenable to such a sign. IMO, it was good business, although it did turn off some people, they were in the minority.

I really doubt whether a McDonald's in New York, Chicago or San Francisco would ever put up a sign that was so blatantly sectarian.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 03:26 pm
stevewonder wrote:
kickycan wrote:
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Even though I think that the sign is inappropriate, I think that the concept of keeping government out of private business overrides any discomfort about it which I might feel.


And this is also why state-induced smoking bans are a f*cking joke also. Why the hell didn't everyone voice this opinion when they put their noses in our business then?


Because your smoke kills us dude, :wink:


Then don't go to that establishment, dude.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 03:27 pm
Was this sign actually in the store or not? Does anyone know?

If it was not in the store then I think the responsibility would be on the person walking in the door.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 03:28 pm
Phoenix,

I understand what you are saying. I guess I was just surprised that you seemed to be assuming something.
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stevewonder
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 03:31 pm
kickycan wrote:
stevewonder wrote:
kickycan wrote:
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Even though I think that the sign is inappropriate, I think that the concept of keeping government out of private business overrides any discomfort about it which I might feel.


And this is also why state-induced smoking bans are a f*cking joke also. Why the hell didn't everyone voice this opinion when they put their noses in our business then?


Because your smoke kills us dude, :wink:


Then don't go to that establishment, dude.


I agree if an establishment decides to allow smoking than we should avoid it ....but how do people who visit the establishment voice their problem with the smoke filled rooms??
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kickycan
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 03:32 pm
This is about freedom to choose what you want to do with your own business. If people are not allowed to choose whether they want to have smoking in their building, or jesus-freak sermons, or whatever the hell else, as long as it is not illegal, then why don't we just take the word "free" out of "free enterprise" and become a socialist country?
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Doktor S
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 03:33 pm
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but how do people who visit the establishment voice their problem with the smoke filled rooms??

By going elsewhere.
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kickycan
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 03:33 pm
stevewonder wrote:
kickycan wrote:
stevewonder wrote:
kickycan wrote:
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Even though I think that the sign is inappropriate, I think that the concept of keeping government out of private business overrides any discomfort about it which I might feel.


And this is also why state-induced smoking bans are a f*cking joke also. Why the hell didn't everyone voice this opinion when they put their noses in our business then?


Because your smoke kills us dude, :wink:


Then don't go to that establishment, dude.


I agree if an establishment decides to allow smoking than we should avoid it ....but how do people who visit the establishment voice their problem with the smoke filled rooms??


By leaving.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 03:33 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Phoenix,

I understand what you are saying. I guess I was just surprised that you seemed to be assuming something.


Oh, I DO believe that the manager of that McDonald's was also attempting to counter some of the blatant commercialism that has accompanied Christmas, and wanted to confer the religious significance of the holiday to his patrons. The point that I am making was that if the manager thought that his sign would have a negative effect on his business, he would not have erected the sign. So you have two separate and distinct issues going on here.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 03:38 pm
Phoenix,

Ok, I can follow that. But, do you think it is at all possible that the person that wnated this sign hung, did it purely for the reason of saying Merry Christmas and why they celebrate Christmas?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 03:44 pm
Momma- Let's put it this way. Yes, I think that he wanted to celebrate Christmas for the reason it was intended. But I do think that, as I said before, that he "had to know his customers". I believe that had he put that sign in an area which was less receptive to the message, he might have found himself looking for a job at Burger King!
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 03:46 pm
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Momma- Let's put it this way. Yes, I think that he wanted to celebrate Christmas for the reason it was intended. But I do think that, as I said before, that he "had to know his customers". I believe that had he put that sign in an area which was less receptive to the message, he might have found himself looking for a job at Burger King!


Laughing I can surely go along with that statement.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 04:07 pm
One of the pluses of the commercialized version of Christmas, is that it is inclusive. People who do not identify with Jesus can enjoy the holiday with those who do, and the good will is spread out all over for everybody.

Those folks who perceive Christmas in a purely religious way, can celebrate the holiday in their churches and their homes. People who introduce the religious aspects of Christmas in public venues are, IMO, fostering exclusivity and divisiveness.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 04:25 pm
I've made this point a few times, and others have too, but Jesus isn't the reason for the season (emphasis on "season"), anyway. Midwinter festivals way predate Christianity, and many of the specific things we do to celebrate are co-opted from those pre-Christian festivals. Alleviating midwinter gloom and celebrating the return of the sun are reasons for MY season.
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Im the other one
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 11:18 pm
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I agree. It helps us know where the crazy nutbags are, so we can avoid them.


So you better not go in a restaraunt with me in it then. :wink: Very Happy

Wanda
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 11:24 pm
Wanda,

I'd be sitting there right beside ya, honey!
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Im the other one
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 11:34 pm
Hey momma, didya here about the store with the 2 nuts in it...?

Wanda
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 11:36 pm
You mean besides the one you and I are in?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2005 06:34 am
LionTamerX wrote:
If you eat at McDonalds all the time, you get to see jesus sooner, rather than later.


Stop it, Boss . . . yer killin' me . . .
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2005 08:55 am
I don't care if people pray on street corners. I do care if people grab my arms and pray.

The sign simply gives me another choice in this life full of choices.

If I went into the MacDonalds and my whopper arrived with fries and a napkin announcing, "Jesus Loves You, You Miserable Sinner", I might ask for my money back. If the napkin simply said, "Jesus Loves You." I'd assume that the Manager was trying is best to spread the faith--and I'd probably forgive him.
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