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Support the Troops - Drill in ANWR

 
 
Reply Thu 15 Dec, 2005 10:32 pm
From "Defenders of Wildlife".

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On November 9, 2005, House Republicans finally recognized what millions of Americans have known all along: that drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is such a terrible idea, and so many people are opposed to it, that a provision to sneak it into the budget bill ultimately threatened passage of the legislation! We are especially grateful to the more than two dozen Republican Members of Congress who demanded that their leadership remove the drilling provision from the bill.


After being rebuked by moderate Republicans, cynical oil interests have taken another shot at ANWR drilling. Those moderate Republicans may not pass the budget with drilling included in it, but who could possibly vote against the upcoming defense bill?? So that's the new strategy. No one could be so unAmerican as to vote against a bill to support our troops in Iraq!

Also from Defenders of Wildlife

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Your tireless efforts and the refusal of some principled lawmakers to allow oil companies to destroy one of our last, great wild places has so far kept Arctic drilling out of the budget reconciliation act. Now the drilling lobby is trying to slip a provision that would allow drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge into the defense appropriations bill.


What a gem! Who would DARE to not vote for the defense spending bill and be accused of NOT supporting the troops.

Not too long ago, I got into an argument with a BMOC here on A2K. I was bitching about how to me, "support the troops" was basically code for "support the war". I further said that I would be damned if I was going to feel sorry for them or their families if they got themselves deceased for this bloody administration. The BMOC went ballistic and condemned me for being so crass. I believe the words included idiotic, etc. etc. etc.

So now this, cynical oil interests using the troops as an entry into ANWR drilling. I'm supposedly the bad guy for not buying this "support the troops" crap!

Am I nuts, or is this horseshit???
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babsatamelia
 
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Reply Thu 15 Dec, 2005 10:56 pm
As I always say, when it comes to government in the "US of A", if it looks like horseshit & smells like horseshit, there's a 99% chance that it IS horseshit. Now, when it comes around to examining the current "groups of selfish, greedy, cutthroats" who are in the BUSINESS of running the administration and policy-making at the current time.... I must make an exception. In this case it's 100% horseshit.
I don't know how many people on A2K are on Medicare, hopefully you will
will never have to exist on Medicare alone, because this is a mediocre excuse for "caring" for Americans who have paid their taxes all of their lives; and are now watching billions of dollars being spent ON & IN foreign countries AND all just to serve the purpose of the avaricious pigs who are getting richer with each passing second, and trying in the most devious of ways to get their grubby little hands on the small amount of unpolluted, pristine land left in this country. We suffer from apathy. Apathy that is honestly destroying us individually AND as a culture.
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Thu 15 Dec, 2005 11:16 pm
babsatamelia, The up and coming defense spending bill is for another $100 Billion so that we can "support the troops" and "win" the war. Now not only do they want to rob the treasury, they want to drill in ANWR while it's all wrapped up in GOD, COUNTRY, MOM, and APPLE PIE!
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Jim
 
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Reply Fri 16 Dec, 2005 12:21 am
I will never understand people who are unhappy with the high price of gasoline, yet want millions of acres off limits to drilling. This isn't just ANWR, but also huge areas offshore Washington, Oregon, Florida, etc.

As much as some people would like to, you cannot repeal the Law of Supply and Demand.
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Fri 16 Dec, 2005 01:00 am
Jim wrote:
I will never understand people who are unhappy with the high price of gasoline, yet want millions of acres off limits to drilling. This isn't just ANWR, but also huge areas offshore Washington, Oregon, Florida, etc.

As much as some people would like to, you cannot repeal the Law of Supply and Demand.


Hi Jim,

My only disappointment with gas prices is that they aren't high enough. When gas went over $3 a gallon, people stopped driving those gas guzzling vehicles Detroit insists on making because of the high profit ratio. Detroit sidesteps the gas milage requirements by manufacturing SUV's. With gas at high prices, that love affair with the SUV cools substantially. All of a sudden hybrids are rolling out the doors of foreign car manufacturers while GM and Ford are laying off people by the thousands.

So see Jim, you can change the laws of supply and demand with just a little tinkering! Instead of giving these oil companies $214 Billion of taxpayer money as outlined in the latest energy bill, we should be taxing the **** out of them. Instead of dumping what will be a half a trillion dollars into Iraq, which it will be if the latest $100 Bill is approved, we should be spending that half a trill on alternate energy sources.

You can destroy the supply need by changing the demand!
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Jim
 
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Reply Fri 16 Dec, 2005 01:14 am
Hi Steve,

When I think of what we could have done for energy independence with the money going down the rat hole in Iraq, I start howling at the moon.

U.S. dometic oil production is down to only 5 MM BPD. When you consider the amount of oil and gas we import, whatever stop-gap measures the government is ever going to do will only put a band-aid on the problem.

Please don't misunderstand - no one supports conservation and alternative energy sources more than I do. One of my pet peeves is our electric utility in Arizona. I was all set to put a photo-voltiac system on our roof, but our utility does not allow your surplus production during the day to offset your consumption at night, and the Arizona Public Utilities Commission hasn't even bothered to answer my letters.

We've been fiddling while Rome burns since the first wake-up call in the 70's. I'm afraid I don't have a very hopefull view of our energy future.
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Fri 16 Dec, 2005 01:44 pm
Jim,

Not everyone is fiddling. California has either passed, or in the process of passing, the million solar roof program. Here's a link with some details. The good news is that the California Public Utilities Commission is knee deep in it, and it looks like will be a big help to California energy problems.

http://www.environmentcalifornia.org/energy/million-solar-roofs
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