Liberal Hypocrisy about Intelligent Design

No, nobody has to believe what you think is right or wrong, but your actions speaks louder than your words. Your truth is based on a factional book called the bible. Your cloistered world becomes dangerious for those that think differently. We only want equalty for everybody.

Just can't make a complete stand, can you? Just can't fully commit can you?

I have asked you if you though homosexuality was wrong. I get, it's none of my business. Fine. Never said it was. Just asked what your stand was.

I asked you if you would vote for something you did not agree with. Well, you kind of answered that one. You'd go with the flow.

I think you sit on the fence quite a bit. I don't. (emphasis added)

So, what would you call me because I think telling a lie is wrong? What would you call me because I think murder is wrong? What would you call me because I think stealing is wrong? Would you attribute these things to bigotry also?

If you could show me in the Bible where same sex love is condoned, I'd have to seriously consider the reference. However, as I have stated before, even before I was a Christian, I believed it was not right.

Modern Biblical scholars are beginning to understand that God's word does not condemn Gay and Lesbian people, though the historical church has taught this for many years. What is it about that understanding that is changing as God reveals more of God's self to us? Let's look at the scriptures that have been used to condemn Gay and Lesbian people.

The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When a person continues in sin and disbelief, the Bible tells us that God "gives them over" to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual "offenders" will not inherit the kingdom of God.

I'm sorry, but I am laughing so hard I can't really type anything.

You have met me a long time ago and I can't believe you don't know who I am!

Mesquite,

Don't you think that if homosexuality was natural or condoned by God then none of us would have a natural repulsion to it?

I read that stuff on that link. I also visited the site of the church it came from. The church tenets said not one thing about Christ dying on the cross for the forgiveness of sins, which is the very core of the Christian belief.

If God condoned homosexuality, don't you think when he said marriage he would have made it more clear than just a husband and a wife? How do you account for the numerous times in the Bible it says, be fruitful and multiply? Same sex partners cannot multiply.

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The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When a person continues in sin and disbelief, the Bible tells us that God "gives them over" to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual "offenders" will not inherit the kingdom of God.

How do you account for the verses listed above? I think they are pretty clear about what God says about homosexual behavior. I have said that I cannot say with 100% certainty why anyone is homosexual.

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

And parados, if anyone uses God's name in vain and it's usually the GD word, I just tell them God's last name is not damn. Did what I post to Wolf answer the rest of your questions? If not, tell me and I will address them.

JLNobody,

If you could show me in the Bible where same sex love is condoned, I'd have to seriously consider the reference. However, as I have stated before, even before I was a Christian, I believed it was not right.

Unfortunately all too often human beings are repulsed by and ridicule those different than themselves.

MA, it is not right...for most of us. Most of us have an attraction to the opposite sex and a natural repulsion to the same sex. Nothing unusual there.

When you cannot argue the message attack the messenger. The link referenced many quotes from Jesus and also went into the quotes you referenced below. IMO a Christian that believed in the teachings of Jesus would have no trouble rationalizing away the anti homosexual passages just as they rationalize away the other abominable portions of the Bible. On the other hand if the want reinforcement of their prejudices they will find it in the Bible also.

Here we go with the picking and choosing again. The bible has a whole lot of trash talking attributed to God. Do you need for me to refresh your memory on some of it? Some men and women are infertile and cannot go forth and multiply. Gee do you think God did that on purpose just to cause them grief?

100% certainty? I don't think you can say with .01% certainty, but as a heterosexual I can state with absolute certainty that I could not choose to be homosexual. As for an accounting of the verses, I will give you an accounting for them just as soon as you tell me how you account for the God directed slaughter and rape of children in Numbers 31:

So why would it confuse a child if your next door neighbors are married and homosexual? It seems you dont' get all bent out of shape out of breaking the commandments which would seem MUCH MORE IMPORTANT. I would think if you are concerned about confused children you would stick to the important stuff.

The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When a person continues in sin and disbelief, the Bible tells us that God "gives them over" to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual "offenders" will not inherit the kingdom of God.

What do you mean breaking the commandments which would seem much more important? The more important stuff? I don't think God sees sin in different degrees.

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The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When a person continues in sin and disbelief, the Bible tells us that God "gives them over" to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual "offenders" will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Parados, I posted these Bible references earlier in a post to Mesquite.