Air CIA still flying - EU demands answers from Washington

Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2005 12:22 pm
For some reason, it seems terror suspects can't be held in prisons on American soil. Maybe because it'd be unconstitutional? Honi soit qui mal y pense.

That doesn't keep the administration from signing "extraordinary rendition" into law. The Red Cross is denied access to the various camps and prisons. People have been disappeared by "Special Removal Units" and brought to prisons in "friendly nations". In other words, torture has been outsourced.

Now it has been reported that more than 80 such CIA flights were stopping off at German airports. Without informing the German government, of course. Which is why now German politicians, who had remained quiet about the alleged "black sites" in Europe used by the CIA to hold detainees, are beginning to demand answers.

It has to be established whether people crossing German soil had been taken into circumstances not in line with human rights, a member of the German parliament's committee overseeing the intelligence services said.

And more is to come:

EU officials, initially reluctant to comment on the matter, have begun to publicly call for a response from Washington. Justice Commissioner Franco Frattini said Thursday the bloc would seek answers from Washington after EU states sent a joint letter to Washington on the issue.


Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Dan Fried said he had discussed the matter with various European officials during talks in Berlin, Vienna, Madrid and Brussels last week, but he refused to elaborate.

"I don't want to attempt to characterize our discussions with allies on this," he told AFP. "The issue came up in a number of ways, in a number of places."

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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2005 12:35 pm
Interesting, there were allegations in Canada recently that CIA front-organization aircraft had landed in Canadian territory under similarly suspicious circumstances. If i get the time, i'll see what i can come up with.
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Reply Fri 25 Nov, 2005 12:40 pm
The CIA's comment, re the "black sites", is this:

Although the CIA will not acknowledge details of its system, intelligence officials defend the agency's approach, arguing that the successful defense of the country requires that the agency be empowered to hold and interrogate suspected terrorists for as long as necessary and without restrictions imposed by the U.S. legal system or even by the military tribunals established for prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay.

"Interrogate without restrictions imposed by the U.S. legal system or even by the military tribunals"?

Torture them, is what they mean.

And then, there's this:

It is illegal for the government to hold prisoners in such isolation in secret prisons in the United States, which is why the CIA placed them overseas, according to several former and current intelligence officials and other U.S. government officials.

WP article

Lovely. Isn't it just great how the administration managed to destroy the support and goodwill of America's allies around the world?
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