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New poll sugests majority of Americans want off world stage.

 
 
Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 02:17 am
A new poll is suggesting that for the first time in over a decade, a majority of Americans want their government to be less aggressive on international politics. That we should stop being the worlds police and even that America shouldn't always take the leading role. What are your thoughts on this?

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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 02:31 am
Re: New poll sugests majority of Americans want off world st
roverroad wrote:
A new poll is suggesting that for the first time in over a decade, a majority of Americans want their government to be less aggressive on international politics. That we should stop being the worlds police and even that America shouldn't always take the leading role. What are your thoughts on this?

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My thoughts? When someone like Hussein develops a nuke or bioweapon, and a couple of years later there are a half a million people dead in New York, Madrid, or London from a suitcase bomb smuggled into the country, maybe the West will wish we had done more.

By the way, it's fascinating that the article never gives the text of any question asked.
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roverroad
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 02:52 am
The thing is, people like like Hussein only have grudges against the US because we are always medaling in their business. So if we mind our own business we wont have to worry about those threats will we?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 03:05 am
Re: New poll sugests majority of Americans want off world st
Brandon9000 wrote:
By the way, it's fascinating that the article never gives the text of any question asked.


Do media reports about polls do this usually in the USA?

Here, in Europe, you find such only on the publications from the institutes that did those polls.

But here's the link to The Pew Research Center
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AliceInWonderland
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 08:50 am
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The thing is, people like like Hussein only have grudges against the US because we are always medaling in their business. So if we mind our own business we wont have to worry about those threats will we?


Oh, you are so right. That must by why Jordan was bombed. That must be the reason for the strife in Africa and China. Why didn't I think of that!

Sarcasm aside, I wouldn't mind at all if we were less involved in the world, provided we stopped the foreign aid. Can't have it both ways, you know. Private citizens should, of course, feel free to contribute to the country of their choice.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 08:53 am
I pay no mind to polls. Having worked at one time in polling and having also been polled on various subjects I am aware that many times they are biased and the answers are not always truthful. To me they are essentially meaningless.
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 09:17 am
We may not want to get off the worlds stage but we sure as hell need a new representative. In addition if the worlds stage includes being the planets policing agency. We should run not walk to the nearest exit.
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 10:26 am
 


Shaken by the Iraq war and the rise of anti-American sentiment around the world, Americans are turning inward, according to a Pew survey of U.S. opinion leaders and the general public. 
The survey, conducted this autumn and released Thursday, found a revival of isolationist feelings among the public similar to the sentiment that followed the Vietnam War in the 1970s and the end of the Cold War in the 1990s. 
At the same time, the survey showed, Americans are feeling less unilateralist than in the past, in what appeared to indicate a desire for a more modest foreign policy. 
Forty-two percent of Americans think the United States should ''mind its own business internationally and let other countries get along the best they can on their own,'' according to the survey, which was conducted by the Pew Research Center in association with the Council on Foreign Relations. 
That is an increase of 40 percent since a poll taken in December 2002, before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq; at that time only 30 percent of Americans said the country should mind its own business internationally. 
The result appeared to represent a rejection by the public of President George W. Bush's goal of promoting democracy in other nations, a major focus of his administration's foreign policy. 
"We're seeing a backlash against a bumbled foreign policy," said Stephen Van Evera, political science professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He said Americans were concerned over failures to make progress on North Korea and Iran, and in the fight against Al Qaeda, but he added, "The American people in particular are looking at Iraq and seeing nothing's working." 
In its analysis of the poll, Pew said that the war in Iraq ''has had a profound impact on the way opinion leaders, as well as the public, view America's global role, looming international threats and the Bush administration's stewardship of the nation's foreign policy.'' 
The survey also found the following: 
Nearly three-quarters of Americans say the United States should play a shared leadership role, and only 25 percent want the country to be the most active of leading nations. 
Two-thirds of Americans say there is less international respect for the United States than in the past. When asked why, strong majorities - 71 percent of the public, 88 percent of opinion leaders - cite the war in Iraq. 
Foreign affairs and security experts most often name India as a country likely to become a more important U.S. ally, while opinion leaders generally say France will decline in importance as a partner of the United States. 
In the survey, Pew questioned 2,006 American adults from the general public and 520 influential Americans in the fields of news media, foreign affairs, security, state and local government, universities and research organizations, religious organizations, science and engineering, and the military. 
Conducted from Sept. 5 to Oct. 31, the survey ''reflects the major changes in the world that have occurred'' since the Sept. 11 attacks in 2001, Pew said. The margin of error for most questions was plus or minus 2.5 percent. 
In its analysis of the results, Pew said the Iraq war and continuing terrorism had ''dramatically affected the way opinion leaders and the public look at potential threats from other countries.'' 
While China was seen four years ago as the greatest threat, opinion leaders and the public now cite Iraq and North Korea as well as China, Pew said. 
Regarding prospects for Iraq, a majority of opinion leaders say that the United States will fail to establish a stable democracy, while the general public was more optimistic, with 56 percent expecting success. Gloom was so deep, in fact, among the opinion leaders that at least 40 percent in each category predict that Iraq will split into three countries, Pew said. 
On relations with Europe, the American public and opinion leaders agree that a strong partnership should be maintained, the survey found. At least 60 percent of each group of opinion leaders said a stronger European Union was good for the United States. In addition to France, however, some of the influentials pointed to Germany - which also opposed the Iraq war - as becoming a less important ally. 
The public lined up with opinion leaders in disapproving of the way Bush is handling his job as president. Fifty-two percent of the public expressed disapproval; the figure soared to 87 percent among scientists and engineers. 
Moreover, the poll found, ''Pluralities in every group of influentials - as well as the public - attribute the fact that there has not been a terrorist attack in the U.S. to luck.'' Just a third say it is ''because the government has done a good job protecting the country.'' 
International Herald Tribune 
 
Brian Knowlton contributed reporting from Washington. 
Full poll results and analysis are available at www.people-press.org. 
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 10:54 am
Well, that's exactly where I linked to four responses above.
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talk72000
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 11:22 am
If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen. But you need to eat so you you still cook. What the US had done was they got a water boiler of a cook in GWB "Great Water Boiler".
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 11:23 am
You knew eventually au would figure out how to locate it.
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au1929
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 05:04 pm
Sturgis
Now if only you had the wherewithal to read it and the mental ability to comprehend.
I guess that would be much to much to expect.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 06:03 pm
So let me get this straight.
A majority of Americans wany us to stop ALL foreign aid,of any sort.
Does that include food,medical,military,financial,disaster relief,the CDC,any any other type of aid we provide?

Does that include closing ALL our embassies and consulates worldwide and bringing every US diplomat home?

Does that include closing EVERY foreign embassy in the US and ordering all of those diplomats out of the country?

Does that include removing EVERY US serviceman and their families from EVERY US overseas base,and canceling all of our treaties with foreign countries?

Does that include leaving the UN and ordering them out of the country?
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roverroad
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 06:53 pm
mysteryman wrote:
So let me get this straight.
A majority of Americans wany us to stop ALL foreign aid,of any sort.
Does that include food,medical,military,financial,disaster relief,the CDC,any any other type of aid we provide?

Does that include closing ALL our embassies and consulates worldwide and bringing every US diplomat home?

Does that include closing EVERY foreign embassy in the US and ordering all of those diplomats out of the country?

Does that include removing EVERY US serviceman and their families from EVERY US overseas base,and canceling all of our treaties with foreign countries?

Does that include leaving the UN and ordering them out of the country?


That all sounds like a good idea to me, except for closing the Embassys. Look at it this way, Binladin had no desire to attack Canada or Switzerland. Not many people want to attack neutral countries.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 06:54 pm
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roverroad
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 06:57 pm
The United Nations is exactly the government body that SHOULD be conducting international business. Not the US. And we SHOULD remain a member.
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roverroad
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 07:17 pm
AliceInWonderland wrote:


Oh, you are so right. That must by why Jordan was bombed.


It is a shame that US policy in Iraq is getting innocent countries bombed. That's another good reason for the US to change it's foreign policy to a neutral one.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 07:21 pm
I think I will wait for the next poll and see what those results are.
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roverroad
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 07:42 pm
Sturgis wrote:
I think I will wait for the next poll and see what those results are.


All you have to do is look at every poll that's out there. Support for Bush's failed policy in Iraq and domestically is falling all across the board, this poll is in line with everything else. You'll only believe the polls that have results that you like? Wake up man, this is a poll driven society and believe it or not, all politicians make decisions based on those polls. They may say they don't but they do.
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 07:46 pm
According to what you are saying the numbers can only go up...this is great news!
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