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Fiscal Irresponsibility

 
 
Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 11:15 am
We are really facing tough times as a nation; and Republicans want to cut even more taxes?

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A 'fiscal hurricane' on the horizon

By Richard Wolf, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON ?- The comptroller general of the United States is explaining over eggs how the nation's finances are going to hell.

"We face a demographic tsunami" that "will never recede," David Walker tells a group of reporters. He runs through a long list of fiscal challenges, led by the imminent retirement of the baby boomers, whose promised Medicare and Social Security benefits will swamp the federal budget in coming decades.

The breakfast conversation remains somber for most of an hour. Then one reporter smiles and asks, "Aren't you depressed in the morning?"

Sadly, it's no laughing matter. To hear Walker, the nation's top auditor, tell it, the United States can be likened to Rome before the fall of the empire. Its financial condition is "worse than advertised," he says. It has a "broken business model." It faces deficits in its budget, its balance of payments, its savings ?- and its leadership.

Walker's not the only one saying it. As Congress and the White House struggle to trim up to $50 billion from the federal budget over five years ?- just 3% of the $1.6 trillion in deficits projected for that period ?- budget experts say the nation soon could face its worst fiscal crisis since at least 1983, when Social Security bordered on bankruptcy.

Without major spending cuts, tax increases or both, the national debt will grow more than $3 trillion through 2010, to $11.2 trillion ?- nearly $38,000 for every man, woman and child. The interest alone would cost $561 billion in 2010, the same as the Pentagon.

From the political left and right, budget watchdogs are warning of fiscal trouble:

• Douglas Holtz-Eakin, director of the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, dispassionately arms 535 members of Congress with his agency's stark projections. Barring action, he admits to being "terrified" about the budget deficit in coming decades. That's when an aging population, health care inflation and advanced medical technology will create a perfect storm of spiraling costs.

• Maya MacGuineas, president of the bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, sees a future of unfunded promises, trade imbalances, too few workers and too many retirees. She envisions a stock market dive, lost assets and a lower standard of living.

• Kent Conrad, a Democratic senator from North Dakota, points to the nation's $7.9 trillion debt, rising by about $600 billion a year. That, he notes, is before the baby boom retires. "We're not preparing for what we all know is to come," he says. "We're all sleepwalking through this period."

• Stuart Butler of the conservative Heritage Foundation projects a period from now until 2050 in which tax revenue stays stable as a share of the economy but Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security spending soars. To avoid big tax increases, he says the government has to "renegotiate" the social contracts it made with its citizens.

• Alice Rivlin and Isabel Sawhill of the centrist Brookings Institution put their pessimism into a book titled Restoring Fiscal Sanity. Rivlin, who became the first director of the Congressional Budget Office in 1974, says it will take an "economic scare" such as the 1987 stock market crash to spur action. Sawhill likens the growing gulf between what the government spends and takes in to a "Category 6 fiscal hurricane."

'The Fiscal Wake-Up Tour'

They are the preachers of doom and gloom. Liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, they are trying to be heard above the ka-ching of the cash register as it tallies the cost of government benefits and tax cuts, Iraq and Hurricane Katrina. To raise their profile in recent months, several have traveled together to places such as Richmond, Va., and Minneapolis for what they call a "Fiscal Wake-Up Tour."

Leon Panetta, former White House budget director and chief of staff to President Clinton, calls them "disciples of balanced budgets. ... And at some point, they'll be proven right."

The White House and Congress are trying to address the nation's short-term budget deficits, but their response pales against the size of the long-term problem. President Bush proposed nearly $90 billion in savings over five years in his 2006 budget. He also tried to trim future Social Security benefits for wealthier recipients. The Senate this month approved $35 billion in savings over five years. House Republicans tried to save more than $50 billion last week, but objections from moderates stalled action. Either way, the savings could be wiped out by $70 billion in proposed tax cuts.

The budget-cutting effort is being led by conservatives, who recoiled when Congress quickly voted to spend $62 billion after Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. "Katrina served as a wake-up call," Walker says.

In prior years, facing a less imminent demographic explosion, Congress cut in politically agonizing increments of $500 billion over five years. Bush's father gave up his "no new taxes" campaign pledge in 1990. After Ross Perot focused attention on the deficit in his 1992 presidential campaign, Clinton and the Democratic-run Congress raised taxes even more in 1993. Clinton and the Republican-run Congress forced two government shutdowns before agreeing on a deficit-reduction package in 1997.

In each case, cutting the deficit backfired at the polls. The elder Bush lost re-election, the Democrats lost Congress, and Republicans' obstinacy helped Clinton win a second term. "The choices you have to make are almost exactly the opposite of what wins political elections," Panetta says.

The problem is also easy for Congress to postpone because the day of reckoning is years away. This year's deficit was $319 billion, down $94 billion from the year before. That's 2.6% of the nation's economy, an amount easily borrowed from foreign investors.

From 'Grenada' to 'Vietnam'

But there is every reason to act ?- and soon. Budget watchdogs cite these looming problems:

• Prescription-drug coverage under Medicare takes effect Jan. 1. Its projected cost, advertised at $400 billion over 10 years when it passed in 2003, has risen to at least $720 billion. "We couldn't afford" it, Walker says of the new law.

• The leading edge of the baby boom hits age 62 in 2008 and can take early retirement. The number of people covered by Social Security is expected to grow from 47 million today to 69 million in 2020. By 2030, the Congressional Budget Office projects, Social Security spending as a share of the U.S. economy will rise by 40%.

• The bulk of Bush's 10-year, $1.35 trillion tax-cut program is set to expire at the end of 2010. But Congress is moving to make the reductions permanent. That would keep tax revenue at roughly 18% of the economy, where it's been for the past half-century ?- too low to support even current spending levels. "We can't afford to make all the tax cuts permanent," Walker says.

• Baby boomers begin to reach age 65 in 2011 and go on Medicare. Of all the nation's fiscal problems, this is by far the biggest. If it grows 1% faster than the economy ?- a conservative estimate ?- Medicare would cost $2.6 trillion in 2050, after adjusting for inflation. That's the size of the entire federal budget today.

"Social Security is Grenada," Holtz-Eakin says. "Medicare is Vietnam."

Inaction could have these consequences, experts say: Higher interest rates. Lower wages. Shrinking pensions. Slower economic growth. A lesser standard of living. Higher taxes in the future for today's younger generation. Less savings. More consumption. Plunging stock and bond prices. Recession.

Some veterans of the deficit-cutting wars are pessimistic about avoiding disaster. "In the end, CBO and others are no more than speed bumps on the highway of fiscal irresponsibility," says Robert Reischauer, former Congressional Budget Office director and now president of the non-partisan Urban Institute.

'Where's Ross Perot?'

The gloom-and-doom crowd hopes to avoid that fate. Increasingly in recent months, they are traveling the country, writing and speaking out about the need to cut spending, raise taxes ?- or both.

The most outspoken is Walker, an impeccably dressed CPA whose 15-year term as head of the Government Accountability Office runs through 2013. He was a conservative Democrat, then a moderate Republican, and is now an independent. He's also a student of history, a Son of the American Revolution who lives on Virginia property once owned by George Washington.

Walker's agency churns out reports with titles such as "Human Capital: Selected Agencies Have Opportunities to Enhance Existing Succession Planning and Management Efforts." But he knows he must try to humanize the numbers, and his rhetoric on the nation's fiscal course has become more acerbic. "Anybody who says you're going to grow your way out of this problem," Walker says, "would probably not pass math."

Holtz-Eakin, a soft-spoken economist who said Monday he will leave CBO at the end of the year, takes a different approach. Less prone to giving speeches, he sees his role as a consultant and truth-sayer to Congress. "Numbers are the currency of the realm in Washington," he says, and most agree his agency has the best in town. But he concedes, "Sometimes it falls to the consultant to tell the client the bad news."

Holtz-Eakin's father was in steel, a cyclical business rocked by strikes and shutdowns. "I thought, 'This is nuts. No one should live like this,' " he says. That explains why he wants the government to prepare for new demands on its New Deal and Great Society benefit programs. "The baby boom has been getting older one year at a time with a striking regularity," he says.

MacGuineas is the outside agitator. An independent, she worked for Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign in 2000. She respects politicians who deliver bad news, as presidential candidate Walter Mondale did in 1984 when he said tax increases were inevitable ?- and then was defeated in 49 states.

"I want to see a presidential election where the candidates are talking about what taxes they'll raise and what spending they'll cut," she says. "It's not always a winning campaign slogan."

Conrad ran for the Senate in 1986 promising to reduce the budget deficit or quit after six years. By 1992, the deficit had hit an all-time high, and he said he would not seek re-election. Only the death of North Dakota's other senator kept him in Congress.

The former state tax commissioner has been doing this longer than other congressional budget officials ?- and he has the most charts. He's so numbers-oriented that at baseball games, he can instantly compute a hitter's average after each at-bat. "Numbers speak to me in a way that they don't speak to others," he says. "I guess it's the way my brain is wired."

Sawhill and Butler, from opposite ends of the political spectrum, lead a group of about 15 budget experts at Washington think tanks who gather periodically to discuss their dour crusade. Aided by Walker and the non-partisan Concord Coalition, a fiscal watchdog group, they have taken their show on the road.

Butler, a native of Britain, witnessed there in the 1960s and '70s the effects of slow growth and high unemployment, driven partly by generous government benefits. "We have a responsibility" to start the debate, he says, "because we don't have to get re-elected." But Sawhill says it's "an indictment of our political leadership that it is being left to outside groups such as ours to put these issues on the agenda."

After three decades in the business, Rivlin is frustrated by lawmakers' inaction and blames balanced-budget advocates for not better articulating the problem. "There may be better ways to talk about it," she says. "I sometimes think, 'Where's Ross Perot when we need him?' "


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woiyo
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 11:24 am
Bush's fiscal plan is not working and will never work so long as he insists on squeezing the middle class.

I refuse to pay more taxes.

This govt better start cutting spending, and I am not confident any Democratic Party member has the ability to do that. I am not sure there are any republicans either who have the balls to cut spending.
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AliceInWonderland
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 11:32 am
Although I waver on the line-item-veto for presidents, it would sure be nice if the pres could veto the pork out of an otherwise good bill (not that we see a lot of good bills). Perhaps a law requiring zero-base budgeting would help. That way, all agencies would have to justify their whole budget every year, rather than just justifying increases.
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rodeman
 
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Reply Tue 15 Nov, 2005 01:30 pm
Cy

I wonder if Dubya can explain to us again why the 1.35 trillion dollar tax cut was a good idea.......?

And congress is moving to make the tax cuts permanent? What part of this am I not getting??
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AliceInWonderland
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 01:21 pm
The part where congress hasn't cut any pork. Why would you want to give them more money to play with? More tax money isn't going to solve the problem - they need to quit spending money on pet projects.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 01:29 pm
It's a combination of both; cutting pork AND raising taxes. Folks, we are seriously in debt here!

Cycloptichorn
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 01:57 pm
So let me ask you Cy, what percentage of a person's pay should go to our government? Currently, this particular middle class clown gives our federal government roughly 15% of my income. Will you be satisfied only when I am giving 20%? Or will it take 30%?

Even then, they will only spend more and more, so increasing taxes is not the answer. Only when they get spending under control will the problem begin to get better.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 02:01 pm
I agree that spending is a problem that needs to be gotten under control.

Personally, I believe that people should pay a rising tax rate based upon what they earn, that caps off at something like 30 mil per year. Anyone who makes more than that, pays every cent they make over that in taxes.

My problem is that most of the tax cuts benefit the rich tremendously. Over the last 5 years, the average wage of the average worker in America has risen .5%, I believe; the average worth of the top 3% , however, is up tremendously.

Lemme see if I can hunt some numbers down; but regardless, tax cuts in a time of huge deficits and debts are insanity! Especially cuts for the rich...

Cycloptichorn
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hamburger
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 02:25 pm
fiscal irresponsibility
have you forgotten about...TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS...?
just stay close enough to the table when the goodies are being served up and you may catch some of the crumbs. surely, you will find that satisfactory ?
(laughing and crying) hbg
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 02:44 pm
Cy, no need to hunt down numbers on the average worth of the top 3%....I'll take your word for it since that is not really (imo) a stat that is too germain to this discussion. Net worth and income are two very different things.

As to your statement about tax cuts benefitting the rich tremendously, I can only agree. Simply because when you cut taxes by a certain percentage, those who make more (and thus were paying more) will get a bigger break. But that is how it should be.

Example: Tax cut of 1% across the board.

Wage earner of 500,000/yr realizes a $5000 gain
Wage earner of 100,000/yr realizes a $1000 gain
Wage earner of 50,000/yr realizes a $ 500 gain
Wage earner of 20,000/yr realizes a $200 gain

And of course, anyone who was not paying anything in taxes gains nothing. Simple. But each tax payer got the same percentage of their earnings back. So how is this unfair. Unless of course you give the upper brackets a bigger percentage of a cut, then I would agree that the top wage earners were indeed getting a bigger break.

Now, if I am not taking something into account that you are taking into account, let me know.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 03:37 pm
It isn't really a question of '1% tax break for everyone.'

It's things like the Estate tax being repealed.

It's investment taxes being repealed.

It's having a cap on Social Security taxes at 90k; anyone who makes more than 90k pays way less in taxes than anyone who makes less than that much, in SS taxes alone.

It is a persistent failure to tax businesses to the proper level; large numbers of businesses use loopholes to pay essentially zero dollars in taxes.

All of these factors favor the rich, hurt the poor.

Any tax cut should be smallest for the richest group of our society; they need it the least!

Cycloptichorn
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AliceInWonderland
 
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Reply Wed 16 Nov, 2005 04:14 pm
Surely you don't think businesses actually pay taxes. Even when they technically write a check to the government, that expense is passed along to the consumer. Tax at 100% everything over a certain dollar amount? What do you want to bet NO ONE would every earn that dollar amount? How stupid would you have to be want to pay 100%?

I say we eliminate all taxes, go with a sales tax on everything but essentials. Those that spend lavishly (the rich) will pay lavishly. Those that spend frugally, will pay very little.
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