The President Betrayed Us

Bush did not only go to war for the WMD issue. He stated that Saddam was a threat to the free countries of the world and that he had killed thousands upon thousands of his own citizens just because they dissented against him. President Bush was wrong on the WMDs because the intellegence was wrong on the WMDs. Several leading Democrats voted to go to war because they had the same intellegence and they also said Hussein had WMDs. This was a failure by the intellegence agencies, not the Bush White House.

Burn in hell, Mr. President



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Well Bushie didn't resign. Instead he made WMD jokes at the National Press dinner and had the press rolling in the aisles. Which brings us to the real culprit the mainstream corporate media that helped Bushie lie us into war then laughed at those despicable WMD jokes.

anyone who voted for the man set themselves up to be betrayed.

Prominent Conservative Leader: Government in Hands of Psychopaths
May stage terror attacks

Alex Jones & Paul Joseph Watson | November 15 2005

Former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal and former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury Dr. Paul Craig Roberts expressed his dire warning that the US government has fallen into the hands of psychopaths and that the Neo-Cons in the Bush administration may be set to stage another terror attack in the US as part of a black operation to demolish growing dissent and coerce the public to rally behind the government once again.

During an interview with the Alex Jones Show, Roberts cited a Capitol Hill Blue article concerning a leaked memo circulating between top Republican leaders.

The memo outlines potential strategies to bring their agenda back online, including the capture of Osama bin Laden, a drastic turnaround in the economy or a resolution of the war in Iraq.

The most alarming option includes a terrorist attack that would validate the President's war on terror and "restore his image as leader of he American people."

This document adds to the mountainous pile of smoking gun evidence of government complicity in staged terror attacks and other false flag operations. It has now been declassified, as we already knew, that the Gulf of Tonkin never happened. It was staged to get us into Vietnam. Operation Northwoods was the official US government plan to carry out 9/11 style attacks against the American people and blame it on foreign enemies as a pretext for war.

Publicly published PNAC documents before 9/11 had saliva stains all over them as Dick Cheney and others talked about helpful Pearl Harbor attacks.

Roberts went further than he has ever gone before in stating that the Neo-Cons were worse than Hitler and Stalin because they publicly embrace torture and pre-emptive war, something that past despots at least tried to hide.

As the Senate bill to block torture is blocked by Bush and Cheney, the promotion of torture in official circles continues.

US National Security advisor Stephen Hadley refused to rule out torture in the case of an imminent attack, telling CNN's Late Edition that there are cases where the Bush administration's empty pledge not to torture would apply.

George Bush' repeated statements of "we do not torture" would certainly ring hollow to the thousands of disappeared individuals, now subject to God knows what in secret ex-Soviet gulag camps all over the Eastern Bloc.

And also to those subject to torture mastermind Donald Rumsfeld's Copper Green program, which manifested itself with arbitrary rape and fatal beatings at Camp X-ray and Abu Ghraib.

Paul Craig Roberts said that the US government is in the hands of dangerous psychopaths who are a disgrace to the human race and who should be arrested as war criminals and turned over the the Hague.

Roberts outlined his conviction that the torture program was not set up to gain any kind of real information from accused detainees because torture is renowned for extracting useless and false information. The real reason for the torture is to make the terrorists implicate themselves and thus create the perception of a real terrorist threat.

This is exactly the process in Uzbekistan, where the government was caught torturing innocent people into confession and then using the confessions as evidence that the government needed to crack down on terror.

Roberts said that the CIA was aware that the vast majority of detainees are not terrorists, proven by the fact that Pakistani gangsters admitted to rounding up innocent people in street sweeps and selling them to the US government as terrorists for anything up to $25,000. These people are now at Guantanamo Bay.

Roberts pointed out that only nine so-called terrorists have been brought to trial and none have been convicted. Why do individuals have to be held for four years without trial if there is proof that they can be convicted with? Army interrogators have gone public with their frustrations that these people are obviously not terrorists but they are still ordered to keep them. Images of mass ranks of terrorists are pure lies on the part of the insane Neo-Cons.

People who refuse to torture and blow the whistle on it, like General Janis Karpinsky and Rick Baccus are ejected and replaced with cadres of torture teams willing to do the dirty work. Roberts that these torture teams would be turned loose on US citizens before long.

Roberts said that America is the most hated nation on earth by design and that the military is completely out of control. The barbarism in Iraq practiced by the US occupational government will live in infamy when it is historically judged by hindsight.

Paul Craig Roberts is part of a crescendo of credible voices stepping forward to blow the whistle on the megalomaniacs in the White House as the insanity of the US government reaches unprecedented levels.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2005/151105inhands.htm

Wouldn't all of this really hinge upon what one used as a definition of the word 'betrayed'? I personally feel that the Democrats are fine specimens of betrayers. George Bush on the other hand has only done what the people asked him to do and now people want to cry about it.


No, President Bush has not come anywhere near betraying any of us.

One of the more bizarre claims I have read here.

You mean there are others?

...and what exactly is so bizarre? I only state the truth.

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No, Bush never claimed that Iraq was about to attack us with WMD. Complain about his decision all you want, but get your facts straight.

Senators Were Told Iraqi Weapons Could Hit U.S.
By John McCarthy
Florida Today

Monday 15 December 2003

Nelson said claim made during classified briefing
U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson said Monday the Bush administration last year told him and other senators that Iraq not only had weapons of mass destruction, but they had the means to deliver them to East Coast cities.

Nelson, D-Tallahassee, said about 75 senators got that news during a classified briefing before last October's congressional vote authorizing the use of force to remove Saddam Hussein from power. Nelson voted in favor of using military force.

Nelson said he couldn't reveal who in the administration gave the briefing.

The White House directed questions about the matter to the Department of Defense. Defense officials had no comment on Nelson's claim.

Nelson said the senators were told Iraq had both biological and chemical weapons, notably anthrax, and it could deliver them to cities along the Eastern seaboard via unmanned aerial vehicles, commonly known as drones.

"They have not found anything that resembles an UAV that has that capability," Nelson said.

Nelson delivered the news during a half-hour conference call with reporters Monday afternoon. The senator, who is on a seven-nation trade mission to South America, was calling from an airport in Santiago, Chile.

"That's news," said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, a Washington, D.C.-area military and intelligence think tank. "I had not heard that that was the assessment of the intelligence community. I had not heard that the Congress had been briefed on this."

Since the late 1990s, there have been several reports that Iraq was converting a fleet of Czechoslovakian jet fighters into UAVs, as well as testing smaller drones. And in a speech in Cincinnati last October, Bush mentioned the vehicles. "We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVs for missions targeting the United States," the president said.

Nelson, though, said the administration told senators Iraq had gone beyond exploring and developed the means of hitting the U.S. with weapons of mass destruction.

Nelson wouldn't say what the original source of the intelligence was, but said it contradicted other intelligence reports senators had received. He said he wants to find out why there was so much disagreement about the weapons. "If that is an intelligence failure . . . we better find that out so we don't have an intelligence failure in the future."

Pike said any UAVs Iraq might have had would have had a range of only several hundred kilometers, enough to hit targets in the Middle East but not the United States. To hit targets on the East Coast, such drones would have to be launched from a ship in Atlantic. He said it wasn't out of the question for Iraq to have secretly acquired a tramp steamer from which such vehicles could have been launched.

"The notion that someone could launch a missile from a ship off our shores has been on Rummy's mind for years," Pike said, referring to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

Sen. Bob Graham, who voted against using military force in Iraq, didn't return phone calls concerning the briefing. Spokespersons for Reps. Dave Weldon and Tom Feeney said neither congressman could say if they had received similar briefings since they don't comment on classified information.

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Although he never said those exact words, are you now contending that he did not use words to that exact effect?

Good morning Blue. Not sure if your post was an attempt to refute my statement, but if so, I think it falls a bit short.

Claiming that Iraq has the capability of hitting the US is a whole lot different than claiming Iraq is about to attack us.

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See my above post. But yes, I am saying that he did not use words to that effect.

They claimed Saddam Hussein had WMD and remotely operated vehicles.

They then claimed that remotely operated vehicles could be launched from sea to attack the US.

I'll let you draw your own conclusion as to whether those two statements add up to a lie.

I agree Drew to what you are saying. They did say that Iraq had the capability. But how does that mean that they are about to attack us? It does not.

If anyone says that Russia has the capability to launch missiles at the US, does that mean that person is claiming Russia is about to attack us? Of course not.

What Bush basically said was that Iraq still had WMD's and programs in place to make WMD's and that because of this they were a threat to our security and the security of the Mid East. How does that translate into "they are about to attack us?" It is silly to try to stretch it to that meaning. "About to attack us" has an immediacy to it that cannot be found in what Bush or anyone else said.

Again, I have no issue with people who are against the war or who disagree with Bush's reasons for going to war. That's your right to do so. There is enough evidence to argue your point without lying about what was said.

So then, Saddam was not an immediate threat? Then why did we invade?

He was not an immediate threat to attack us, no. Bush has stated repeatedly his reasons for invading. I will not reiterate them here.

CoastalRat, my post was meant to point out that Bushie was implying to Senators that Saddam was an imediate threat. And the tactic worked.