Are Men Necessary?

I'm getting that book, thanks nikki.

Well, it's hard to find a good female drummer. (though there are many great ones!)

AZctually, it is hard to find (and keep) a good drummer of any gender.

As soon as we find a way to harvest their sperm, they will become obsolete. Gosh, what a wonderful world it will be.

LOL!

I wasn't kidding!

I hear you. But, we can find something useful for them to do. I have gotten used to them, and they are kind of cute too.

*giggles*

We won't take it lying down so BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway-you women would bore each other to death in no time.

Ah come on spendi, you know you would take it lying down.

I agree, I need variety for thats the spice of life.

Competing with each other to impress us men is just about the only thing most of you women are interested in apart from public displays of how much you make us pay.A quick glance around the pub on Sat night is quite sufficient evidence of those.

You would all pine away to nothing without it.

I'd get a posse up if I was you to throw Ms Dowd in the river.

LOL!

Dowd's views are not universally acceped even among feminists.

By SUSAN EDELMAN
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November 13, 2005 -- Maureen Dowd's new book has become a Weapon of Mass Disgust.
New York women are gagging at Dowd's assertions in "Are Men Necessary: When Sexes Collide" that today's women must become Barbie dolls to land husbands, and that men are not into romancing brainy, high-achieving women. She blames her own singlehood, at 53, on her smarts, killer wit and powerful post as a New York Times op-ed columnist, bemoaning that "being a maid would have enhanced my chances with men."

Other successful Big Apple women, writers and social scientists call her research flimsy and her theories far-fetched.

"I think there's a lot of annoyance at Maureen Dowd floating around," said New York City feminist critic Katie Roiphe, who wrote a scathing review on Slate.com. "The world she's writing about is virtually unrecognizable."

In Dowd's book ?- an excerpt ran in The New York Times Magazine last month ?- she uses anecdotes from friends, and fellow Times reporters, to argue that today's single women let men pay on dates ?- "if he wants another date" and that men eagerly do so "to prove their manhood."

"She relies heavily on stereotype, exaggeration and a cartoonish version of men that doesn't resemble the men I know," said Roiphe, 37, a married mother of one.

Dowd claims women who excel in the boardroom are "sabotaging their chances in the bedroom."



One fan of Dowd's column has evidence to the contrary.

Marisa Thalberg, founder and president of Executive Moms, a Manhattan-based network of more than 3,000 CEOs, lawyers and other high-level career women nationwide, said more than 90 percent of the group are married ?- and 70 percent are equal or primary breadwinners.

For these accomplished moms, men are not just necessary, but vital, said Thalberg, an advertising consultant married to a public relations exec, and pregnant with their second child: "They are the first to say, 'I couldn't have done it without a great spouse who supported me.' "

Caryl Rivers, a journalism professor at Boston University, and Rosalind Barnett, a women's studies professor at Brandeis University in Waltham, Mass., wrote an article for womensenews.com, saying Dowd uses "flaky research and flimsy evidence."

Dowd cites one study that found women with higher IQs less likely to be married, but does not reveal ?- if she knows ?- that the study looked at women in their 80s, not modern women, the authors said. Dowd uses another study suggesting males shy away from ambitious women, but that was based on college students ?- 17- to 19-year-old guys.

Dowd also cites a study that found high-achieving women ages 28 to 35 were less likely to be wives and mothers ?- but fails to explain the same study found that by the ages of 36 to 40, the high achievers were slightly more likely to be hitched with kids than other working women.

"Maureen Dowd obviously didn't do her homework," Rivers told The Post.

The professors name other ambitious, high-powered journalists like Diane Sawyer and Christiane Amanpour, who boast happy marriages, as well as political stars such as Elizabeth Dole, Mary Matalin and Karen Hughes.

An undisputed expert on relationships, Candace Bushnell, author of "Sex and the City," said some young women still want to marry quickly for security, but she sees many women, even in their 20s, who "make more money than their boyfriends and they don't have a problem with it ?- and the men don't either.

"I just don't buy into the idea that anyone is too old or too smart to find love," Bushnell added.

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Rivers isn't very good at statistics, is she?

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Dowd is a kick. She clearly adores men, and men adore her <in her real life> She's entertaining and takes no cr@p. Gotta appreciate that in anyone, male or female.

Baby Bush's dad is a personal fan of hers. The recent New York mag article on her was particularly funny when it talked about George Sr's appreciation of her.

I have only one question for Ms. Dowd: why does she call her shower massager "Steve?"

Since when are anyone's views supposed to be universally accepted? Or does that rule only apply to women?

besides, without men, who would the lesbians have to hate?

Once, a long time ago , I asked my wife : why are elected women at high offices so rare and inbetween?

Or to better word my question's intent:
I observed that women were the majority of people who actually voted, so I wondered why was it that women did not vote for women candidates in droves?

She told me the following:
Are you nuts? Having to deal with a president in one of her bad moods? (by this she was referring to PMS)
And besides, she continued; I wouldn't trust the b*tch ! (her own words)

So apparently, yes ; men are needed because women don't trust each other.

We'd kill each other off in no time.

I would simply hate a world without men. For the lesbians of the world, this might work. But for those of us who like a good sausage, there are plenty of things about men I'd miss.

My vote would be Maureen ("Mo") Tucker of the greatest pre-punk band of all time, the Velvet Underground.